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    "But my friend runs a PinePhone as a daily driver" (lemmy.ml)
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    [–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 40 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "Android is already a Linux phone" They hated Jesus because he told them the truth.

    [–] I_like_turtles3@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)
    [–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 32 points 8 months ago

    ... or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux

    [–] Vash63@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, but it is Linux. OP doesn't mention GNU.

    [–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    That's like saying you run FreeBSD because you have a PlayStation 5 though.

    It's so far removed people associate it as something different entirely.

    [–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

    It uses an ancient Linux kernel with millions of lines of code changed from the original.

    [–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Android devices run deprecated Linux kernels that have a bunch of proprietary binary blobs plopped onto them, so technically "Linux", but not an easily updateable mainline kernel like most people are referring to when talking about "Linux."

    [–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    OK then call it what it is. You want a FOSS Linux phone.

    [–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Linux is FOSS. Android is based on Linux. Android is not Linux.

    [–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Uh you know that Debian isn't just Linux either right? It's based on Linux. The same way that Android is.

    [–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Debian is GNU/Linux and that's what almost always people mean when they say Linux. Android is not GNU/Linux and doesn't even use the mainline Linux kernel - just some old, heavily modified version.

    Mobian or Manjaro ARM on the other hand are GNU/Linux distributions. They run the same software that you can run on your desktop distro.

    [–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Moving the goalposts. We weren't talking about GNU. Not all Linux distributions use GNU.

    [–] lemmeee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Not all Linux distributions use GNU.

    Almost all popular ones do.

    [–] nodsocket@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

    lol so now popularity matters?

    [–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

    Not in the way they're talking.