Look man, I am not religious, but religion is not the reason bad people do bad things, I am not going to say it is nessicarily an inharent part of their charicter, but there are other reasons. People will also do great feets of good in the name of religion as well. to boil it all down to religion is really an over simplification.

[–] systemguy_64@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Religion is a catch-all for beliefs, ideology, etc, and it is religion. The fight is your sky God versus my sky God. Meanwhile, it's the same fucking God.

Name a mass genocide / terrorist attack committed by atheists. And I'm talking about groups, not some neckbeard from Reddit who decided to shoot up a school.

I'll wait.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Stalin wasn't religious and actively tried to stamp out religion.

He killed what, 6+ million people?

[–] systemguy_64@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you are confusing him with the other moustached man of WW2

Stalin "only" killed 1.2 million at the high estimate. He killed people because they were in opposition rather than a certain race like Hitler.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No Stalin was an athiest and he caused mass genocide.

Google says it could be 20+ million. Anyways, how many he killed isn't the point.

He killed people because they were in opposition

Yeah he killed them for non-religious reasons. Religion didn't play a part in the mass genocide.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You see lemmy has decided whenever anything bad happens religion is to blame, Measles? Religion, Global Warming? Religion, War? Religion

Idk what the fuck is going on in the US, but from what I can tell is that they are using religion as an excuse to do whatever the fuck they want (anyone who has the slightest knowledge of the bible knows this is wrong anyway), while also not changing their conservative mindset, I live in a religious conservative society as well and it is 100% the conservativesm I have a problem with, not with people believing in a god

Edit: And I am not a christian either before I get comments like ‘gO aWaY buTthUrt ChrISTOfacIst lol’, I just have studied a fair share of major religions

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ill be honest, I am an Athiest, and I had about a year where I went through the "reddit athiest" phase where all religion is evil, but religion is very rarely, especialy in modern time (but I would argue even in pre modern) the root cause of the issue, is it a stated reason, yes, is it an accelerant to the issue maybe, but very rarely have I found it to be the rout cause.

[–] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Religion in itself is not evil, but it definitely can be used in a very evil way, but I don’t think ‘kill all religion’ is the way to combat it, instead we should educate ppl about what their religion actually says, it’s pretty clear that Jesus was a socialist who wanted the rich to pay their taxes, and Islam has a mandatory charity every muslim has to give, just to name a few things, but people don’t know all this, because all they have been taught is ‘kill anyone who is not like you’, and also show that religion is something you can share, not force, and this again ties back to what I said about conservatism, people don’t want to accept they are wrong about somethings they believe in

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

In the US religion is absolutely being used to spearhead social conservatism and anti-government ideas. Evangelists are backing candidates who say stuff like "only while male Christians should be able to vote". And the judge appointed to the Supreme Court that shifted it to the far right has heavy ties to that same section of Christianity.

Let's not forget too that the entire reason we have this conflict is extremist Jews believe God gave them the entirety of Palestine and Syria.

[–] grandel@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

A lot of bad things have happened because of religion but i wouldn't consider it the only thing keeping us from an utopia.