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[–] Bizarroland@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Too bad the Mozilla foundation didn't pivot to that instead of whatever the hell they're doing with AI

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 7 months ago

They can't. Google is their main source of income.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Truly. I wonder if ActivityPub could be utilized to create a resilient search engine that shares the cost among federated instances. We already have something like that in Lemmy and Mastodon where federated data can be search from any instance. If the data is pages crawled by some automatic crawler which is then federated across instances which in turn allow to search through it, perhaps it might resemble a search engine. Page ranking beyond text matching could even be done by peoples up/down votes instead of some arbitrary algorithm. Similar to how voting works on StackExchange or Lemmy. 🤔 I'm sure someone is thinking about this.

[–] deur@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The answer to your question is no, federation is not an appropriate model for internet scale search.

[–] Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think you need a centralized system with decentralized ownership, so that no single party can fuck it up by themselves

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sigh_Bafanada@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I mean yeah exactly

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

the biggest question would be how to defend it from spammers and corporations with potentially much more money.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

One answer that's proven to work is by involving a lot of people's labor in the editorial/curation process. Similar to how posting/commenting/voting/moderation work on Lemmy, how it's worked on Reddit and other human-driven platforms. Corporations have proven on multiple occasions that paying for this labor is not feasible and so a system that depends on it should be corpo-resistant or capital-resistant.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

well reddit did that and was full of shills and bots, vote manipulation, and more, this approach completely failed for them.

and they do put a lot of money into it.