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[–] Shikadi@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go find me a left wing instance that spreads hateful disinformation and incites violence and I'll ask to defederate with them too. Just because the right is the only side doing it doesn't mean they'd be removed for being on the right.

If someone goes to jail because they murdered someone, it wasn't because of their political preferences.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hexbear? A stretch, but lemmygrad?

[–] Shikadi@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The time I spent interacting with lemmygrad, it seemed to me that although they were completely misinformed (Stalin denial and such) they believed what they were saying and weren't actively and knowingly trying to hurt people. They believe the Chinese government is good and heading in the right direction for example. Their goal, while heavily misinformed, is to make life better for people. Not to spread hate and discrimination and violence. It's a lot more gray area imo. I highly doubt the people spreading shit through exploding heads don't know what they're posting is bs. I could be wrong though. Regardless, I'd understand if the decision was made to defederate with them, but they're not going around saying "kill trans people, kill the Jews" to my knowledge. I haven't seen hexabear yet

Edit: I went back to lemmygrad to take a look, it's worse than it was last time I was there. What I said still applies, but to a much lesser degree

[–] Shikadi@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just looked at hexbear. I'd defederate them too. Though given they're shitting all over liberals and saying how great Stalin was, I wouldn't call them left wing either, other than liking communism. But maybe it counts as not right wing?

[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but liberals are not left wing, any socialist would shit on liberals. But I agree that their unironic defense of Russia is a about weird.

[–] Shikadi@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Side thought, it's really weird that the right refers to the left as liberals, but the left refers to right-wing "centrists" as liberals, so everybody shits on liberals.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man, I never saw "tankies are right wing" until I joined lemmy, and now I've seen it twice. What even is left wing/right wing to you guys?

[–] Shikadi@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't call them right wing?