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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Whilst I appreciate the satire of the Tories' one and only politican strategy, as the Snowden Revelations showed back then, New Labour wasn't any better in their "keeping a watchful eye on the plebes" ways.

Looking down on the rest as riff-raff that needs to be kept in place is a feature of both Tories and New Labour.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Snooper's Charter (which made all the things Snowden revealed actually legal) and the thing where it became illegal to film facesitting in the UK both happened under the Cameron administration after being pushed for when Theresa May was home secretary. New Labour didn't pass anything comparable.

It might well be the case that GCHQ started their mass surveillance of UK citizens under orders from Blair, but given that five independent inquiries have found that the security services lied to the cabinet about WMDs in Iraq, it's pretty plausible that they did it of their own volition despite it being illegal.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I think the theory that New Labour knew perfectly well what was going on and are no different from the Tories in this makes a lot more sense, especially since the veritable explosion in the use of surveillance cameras dates back to their time as do cases of abusive police surveillance such as the Met infiltration of Ecologist groups (know because at least one of the women in one such group ended up pregnant from one such undercover cop).

Or are you saying that the New Labour leadership were such complete total incompetent numpties that they could not see any of this for their whole decade in power?!