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[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wow. Thanks for cherry picking one thing out of hundreds to show your point! That's a solid way of arguing.

Would you like me to cherry pick an example of one which disproves you? Or would you like to examine the evidence as a whole and actually properly examine it?

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Disproves which part of what he wrote?

Or disproves the strawman you set up yourself?

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Let me explain it to you since you don't seem to understand.

OP makes a statement that all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal.

I say no, that's not right.

Other poster says well if you look at this one example, they voted together!

I said looking at one example isn't reflective of the whole picture. That I can just pick another example that shows they don't vote together. You need to look at it overall instead of cherypicking facts that suit you.

Do you understand the logic there and why what you wrote makes no sense?

I can make it simpler perhaps if you need it.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

>OP makes a statement that all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal.

that is not what they said

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"It will never happen. Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There's only one party, the party of the Oligarchs. All of the petty shit about abortion, trans rights, gay rights, racial equality, gender equality, religion, second amendment, etcetera are all distractions to keep us all at each others throats while the rich cocksuckers figure out more insidious ways to fuck us all over."

?

Did you even read what OP said lol?

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Guess not then. Oh well, if you don't have an argument I'll just block and move on.

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

OP makes a statement that all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal

Wrong. OP never wrote that - YOU made that statement as a strawman. You should try to be a more honest person.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, here you go since you missed the comment seemingly.

"It will never happen. Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There's only one party, the party of the Oligarchs."

Did you even read what OP said lol? It's right in front of you, the first sentences. If I'm being dishonest then you are on another level of insane/lying.

[–] Arcka@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Biden is owned by the same people as Trump. There's only one party, the party of the Oligarchs.

Is not the same as

all democrats and republicans act the same and are equal

Refusing to see nuance in the difference between the sentiment of these two statements does a disservice to yourself and your cause (unless you're on the side of the billionaires).

So here you go since you missed the distinction: they can both be (and are) corrupt, without being "the same".

People like to point out all the ways they're not the same and one team is better than the other. Fine. Those things can all be true, and politicians in both those parties are still corrupt.

It was only a couple presidents ago that Democrats had the House, Senate, and President. Even then they couldn't get their own members to vote for anti-corruption legislation.

[–] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Great!

This is a fair reply, but it sounds like we're both on the same page. Yes, both parties have their own issues but saying they're the same isn't correct. If you're in a position of picking between them then clearly one side is less corrupt than the other.