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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

In a way, this is how property ownership works now. "Owning a home" is a license from the government. Obviously, you're license will be revoked if you don't pay taxes. Also if the government is overthrown, your deed won't be worth much. (ask a Palestinian).

I've always thought it was weird that a person could own land. This is a ridiculous idea from a geologic perspective. IDK if it's real, but I've heard that Native Americans though that a person claiming ownership of the land was like a flea claiming ownership of the dog.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The government doesn't set the price of lots or land, that's determined by the seller. A deed will still be worth its value unless total lawless anarchy takes over. If the government is overthrown, the price of land is only effected by the stability of the currency.

[–] frosch@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I guess OP meant won’t be worth much as in „when your government is overthrown, the new government might just kick you out of your home and strip you of your land“ as the current government is actually the only party giving you the right to claim ownership of the land.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Homie forgot the purpose of all of this is so we don't have to defend our territories like wild animals. Property ownsership akin to this has existed since Ur. Law and the ability to enforce it is what keeps this viable.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Ownership is a legal fiction that doesn't exist outside government.

Being able to occupy or defend something isn't the same as owning either. A bear can defend it's territory without property rights. A goose can shit in your front yard without an easement.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

If a dog gets overly-infested with fleas, with no intervention, the fleas will win.

And such is the condition of the planet, overly-infested with capitalist-minded humans.

They say that, and to a degree it's true, but we also spent millenia murdering the shit out of each other for being in each other's territory

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Owning land is like owning your phone. If Apple controls it more than you, is it really yours? If the HOA has more say, who's home is it?