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While we can be pretty confident that Reddit has its own motivations (i.e. self-interest) for fighting these lawsuits, this is still a good news story for pirates.

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[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 227 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Food for thought: Lemmy instance admins probably can’t afford $800 an hour corporate attorneys to fight off subpoenas.

[–] Skelectus@suppo.fi 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but that's assuming the logs contain your ip in the first place.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 53 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Assume they do until proven otherwise

[–] skulbuny@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

You can just look at the source code... no need to assume anything. You can't prove a negative lol

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oops, I accidentally fired the sd card containing my instance running on my raspberry pie.

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If that is really how you do it, you won't need to fry it, it will happen soon enough by itself.

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Seriously. Lemmy is a house made of patchwork quilt, with a bit of pine sap here and there to steady the few boards.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago

"Held together with bubble gum and duct tape" is the phrase I usually use

[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

MFW I went to upvote but couldn't because "error: VPN blocked" 😑

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Huh, I exclusively browse Lemmy through a VPN and I've never seen that one.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He's probably talking about reddit They no longer allow vpn's or any user obfuscators to browse the site

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No they don't. I use the site with a VPN often and it generally works

[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Are you logged in? I can't access Reddit with a VPN if I'm not logged in

[–] denhil@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can access old.reddit.com with VPN. The new shitty layout will block you but there are browser extensions to automatically redirect. I'm never logged in since I deleted my accounts a few months ago.

[–] Salix@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Thanks! Confirmed that it works with old reddit, just doesn't work at all for me using regular new layout, which sucks anyway.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

I've been using a VPN with an account recently. Works fine.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No lmao, I tried to upvote his comment and Thunder spat out that error. A few subs have started doing that (or it's instance-wide but only for certain VPN servers) in the last week or so.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

instagram definitely does this, reddit seems fine for me so far

[–] Cinner@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Reddit blocks access to all major VPN services (on desktop for sure) when they click a link from a search engine (maybe even navigating directly to it but I don't do that). This has been happening for about a month now. There's a specific page it shows that basically says "come back without a VPN."

I don't think it does it if you're logged in and have cookies enabled.

Caveat: there is a simple way to bypass it, I'll let you old.heads figure that one out.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago

The block is intermittent on Reddit, but it does occur.

[–] parachaye@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That would probably be because your instance is different. Lemmy.world has recently blocked VPN traffic apparently because of bad actors uploading CSAM behind VPN. I also had issues with Lemmy with my VPN this week and either need to split tunnel or need to browse Lemmy as view-only.

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Those bad actors are really stupid, a VPN isn't going to protect them. You're not magically anonymous behind a VPN, and such material is obviously going to attract the attention of very skilled cyber security experts & law enforcements.
Idiots doing crimes never understand basic OpSec.

[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 28 points 7 months ago

Would be a real shame if my instance's logrotate was set to, say, only keep a few days of webserver logs. Real shame.

Good luck establishing precedent with that!

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Oh. They sued an instance? 😱
Anyway... here's another 5 hosted in Russia, or a country where piracy is legal, or just don't give a fuck.

[–] t0fr@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

ok but what if in losing the suit, they must give up the logs and IPs?

Before they go under?

like the instance and the people that discussed piracy will be hurt

and it will put fear in others

[–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not all instances keep logs...
Some intentionally discard them, look into the policys of the instance you're signing up to.
All your comments and posts are hosted on your parent instance then shared to the federated instances.
Some instances don't even let you sign up with an email or make it optional.
Lemmy.world keeps logs, but much more controversial instances often don't.
Also it's much more complex, because you have to think about the scope of the potential lawsuit as well as the given evidence that a user is actually sharing the material infringing on their copyright; which will not be a large amount of the user base. They can't simply sue a user for having an account, the user has to actively be sharing infringing material.

[–] ex_06@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

And, to be fair, a gofundme for stuff like this often gets full very fast

If the community is big enough to get sued it’s also big enough to spread a link for funding, easy