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Mozilla Corp., which manages the open-source Firefox browser, announced today that Mitchell Baker is stepping down as CEO to focus on AI and internet safety as chair of the nonprofit foundation. Laura Chambers, a Mozilla board member and entrepreneur with experience at Airbnb, PayPal, and eBay, will step in as interim CEO to run operations until a permanent replacement is found.

https://archive.is/rmMEb

Official Blog Post: A New Chapter for Mozilla: Focused Execution and an Expanded Role in Charting the Internet’s Future

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[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Mozilla is a for-proifit company!?!

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 51 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Mozilla Corporation is a corporation, and subsidiary to the Mozilla Foundation.

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 11 points 9 months ago (4 children)

waif can a non-profit run a for a profit??

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Yes. People got to eat.

They're legit companies, but they do not operate with the goal of profit. Profit is something they may make, and in many cases it's good so they can survive losses of funding or the like.

It also means they get certain tax advantages because they are not solely focused on profit

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yesm It is weird, but it would be impossible for a foundation to develop complex software like a Web browser. Engineers cost.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i don't think konqueror, gnome's web browser, or abrowser are tied to for-profit entities, though i could be mistaken

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They are skins over someone else's browser.

KDE's Konqueror uses Qt WebEngine, which is developed by the Qt Company and is based on Google:s Chromium.

GNOME's Epiphany uses WebKit, developed by Apple.

Trisquel's Abrowser is a rebranded Mozilla Firefox.

[–] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ironically, all of these things except Abrowser are based on Konqueror’s original engine, KHTML, so Konqueror was actually the OG engine. KHTML was forked to WebKit, which was forked to Blink, which became the underpinnings of Qt WebEngine, which Konqueror now uses.

This is also why KHTML still appears in the user agent strings for all of these engines, but back in the day the Gecko engine used in Mozilla products was already a thing and KHTML was the alternative to that, hence “KHTML, like Gecko”.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 9 months ago

KHTML was truly a milestone in Free Software history. Immense respect to KDE developers.

[–] ben_dover@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

webkit is not developed by apple, they're just using it for safari and contributing surprisingly little to the actual project

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 9 months ago

If you look on the Github page of the project, most of the recent commits are submitted by Apple employees.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] gordoooo_z@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The idea was to try to diversify funding in an attempt to deal with the 500 million dollar existential crisis that is the Google deal, which provides the majority of their funding. What that means is that they want to be a self sustaining tech company with annual revenue of $500 million. What that means is inevitably, fuck the mission, the browser, and the users; make money.

Firefox as it stands now is on its last legs, never to return. The only way it could possibly have a real future as a browser with a market share of over 3% is if somebody without a half a billion dollar boat anchor tied to their waste forked it, and that fork managed to amass a sizeable enough team of contributors to actually maintain and iterate on a modern, secure, feature complete web browser that could keep up with Chromium and friends.

I really wish that didn't seem nearly as unlikely to me as it does.

(imho but I'm just some guy on the internet)

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 10 points 9 months ago

Mainly develop software, like the Firefox browser.

[–] s_s@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

They have a for-profit subsidiary, for tax purposes.