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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To all the decaf haters: If you drink decaf, you actually like the taste of coffee without needing the caffeine. That's someone with taste, in my book.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There are many ways to decaffeinate a coffee bean... Some more gross than others... All of them blasphemy.

And yes most of them ruin the taste of coffee.

Also it's obvious you have seen this already. https://youtu.be/yYTSdlOdkn0?si=6Z1RlexQCt2I4OI9

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's funny, because you claim the opposite of what is said in the video.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's the funny thing about subjectivity right?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Blasphemy" is not really something I would consider a term that's commonly used to express subjective opinions.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's because words on their own all have definitions. The subjectivity is created contextually. I swear it feels like I'm talking to a bot.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No need to get insulting, ma nude. Still not sure in what world your statement could be regarded as subjective in intend. Please, enlighten me.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Opinions, such as "all methods of decaffeinating coffee are blasphemy" are subjective in their very nature. What makes this more obvious is that the definition of blasphemy is entirely subjective and can't even begin to be assessed objectively until at very minimum a religious dogma is declared for the basis of evaluation.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the definition of blasphemy is entirely subjective

I disagree. IMHO, the accusation of blasphemy presupposes a dogma to actually make sense.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Okay... Which one? It's pretty clear that decaffeinated coffee violates no religions that I'm aware of... And in fact for some religions would be the only allowable way to drink coffee. And if you argue that I just meant in general that it is a slight on to any God then how would you interpret that as anything other than humor or sarcasm?

Do you always feel like a victim or is it just when you aren't caffeinated enough?

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

... Any dogma? It's like the claim "that's illegal" presupposes a body of law. No matter which one.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's not how legal systems work... Plenty of things are legal in one place and illegal in another. No Christians are worried about blasphemy against Zeus or Jupiter. Like wise a Zoroastrian is only concerned about blasphemy against Ahura Mazda and not Allah.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm claiming that the accusation or blasphemy presupposes a frame or reference. In this frame of reference, you can make objective statements. Not that this frame of reference is absolute.

In your line o reasoning, velocity would be subjective.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Velocity is not suggestive because it is defined as speed in a direction.

In your example you are only taking speed, assuming direction and stating velocity.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Velocity needs a frame of reference, though, since there is no absolute frame of reference.

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

This is the silliest shit I've ever discussed on the Internet. I will say kudos to you for keeping things mostly amicable. It's been awhile since I've had an argument on topicality and it's been entertaining for me. Thanks my friend, best wishes.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dude, you clearly didn't even watch the first 30 seconds of the video because it contradicts what you say from the start

[–] NeverNudeNo13@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How do you gather? You think there isn't many ways to decaffeinate beans or that some of them aren't gross? Or that most ways used to decaffeinate beans doesn't make the coffee taste bad?

These are the very points James makes in the first 2/3rds of the video.

The only point that he and I might delaminate on was that all decaf is blasphemous, and that's a stretch because he never talks about the religious criminality of drinking coffee?

Why do you think I would offer a video to people about decaf that I didn't watch? Hint: I don't hate decaf coffee.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

I don't hate decaf coffee.

all of them blasphemy

Dude, pick one and stick with it. None of this hypocrite crap

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I think it's stilly for anyone to impose there way of coffee consumption onto anyone

I like my caffeine, mainly because I have a literal caffeine addiction

But I also keep around some decaf in case I have a random coffee craving at like midnight