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[–] Anamana@feddit.de 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

What does 'physical copies' mean here? DVDs? Not even my parents have these anymore lol

[–] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I say it counts as a "physical copy" if you own and have in-person access to the hardware it's stored on.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So if I pirate it and put it on my harddrive it's physical?

[–] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yep. You can take out that hardrive and mail to someone. Just like a DVD. Doesn't get more physical than that.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Doesn't get more physical than that.

I'm not sure Olivia Newton-John agrees tbh..

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I rarely get More physical than that.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean HDDs are basically discs as well right?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, only counts if you print out the data.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

Sounds like fun

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Just learned in another thread the other day that cds/dvds only survive for around 20 years before they start breaking down. Interesting

Quickly did a little research, and of course the truth is more nuanced https://www.canada.ca/en/conservation-institute/services/conservation-preservation-publications/canadian-conservation-institute-notes/longevity-recordable-cds-dvds.html

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And we have bitrot to deal with on HDD/SSDs!

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Yeah when you start to look into this it's a bit scary. Best bet is something like the M-DISC. But the price per TB is much higher compared to ~15€/TB for HDD it's more like 100€/TB. Plus you need some jukebox like disc switcher.

If there was a collapse of our global industrial society e.g. by disruption of trade and and high tech manufacturing we'll relatively quickly loose much of the accumulated knowledge of humanity. Copyright stuff adds to that. That's why projects like anna's-archive are a moral imperative.

The best would probably be something like a custom microfilm that lasts forever and you can view / play and copy with a primitive projector and chemistry.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Use a better file system like ZFS or BTRFS to lower the risk of bit rot.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

In the end it's a gamble right?

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just bought a DVD this week. There are plenty of movies where the video quality doesn't matter much. I'm not getting any more out of watching Guardians of the Galaxy in 4k over 480p.

There are a few movies that really do benefit higher quality though.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

You must be a (dust) collector at this point ;)