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Reddit users thevincentasteroid and MMD3_ posted about an auto-playing video ad (with sound) on the home screen. The ad is for Chicken Tender Wraps from Carl’s Jr. When it begins auto-playing, it pushes all the other UI elements out of focus and goes almost full-screen, returning to the home screen after it has played through once.

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We are not okay with it.
But else you have this, some flavor of AndroidTV + Launcher, an AppleTV which probably doesnt have feature parity with all apps available for the AndroidTV or you setup your own device which involves (probably) work.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I’m not sure what app feature parity you are talking about, unless it’s a specific application for android(?)

For what it’s worth the Apple ecosystem is the “popular/trendy” one and businesses will cut their balls off to have their app work well on Apple stuff. I say that entirely from a “Apple is the zeitgeist” not one is better than the other standpoint.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Lmao no. The apple ecosystem is not the popular/trendy one, it's the expensive one where devs must pay a license to publish their apps. There's tons of open source apps that publish to the play store but don't publish in the apple store because it costs them money to do so. I use several apps that don't have parity in ios. TachiyomiSY, Wow (weather app that apparently was published to the iPad store, not the iPhone store..., it has no ads, customizable interface and it can connect to the local weather provider which is usually the most accurate), Notify (app that let's me configure extra stuff on my MiBand), Boost (no, voyager's interface sucks for me), newpipe(! There's a newpipe in ios but it's another app and has ads lmao).

Basically, if you want popular brand company apps, sure, they will be on ios, but I bet you they will be on android too, if not earlier because it's free to publish and nowadays if we are honest you can develop a single app with react native and voilà, make it into a functional app in both systems with minimal effort. However, the difference exists on the open source apps, on the small apps created by small devs that offer stuff for free, those don't publish into apple because it would cost them 99 USD per year just to be able to publish.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can Apple have third party home screens?

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, that would allow someone to take over the device.

However, it does wake up to whatever app was last running so the difference is likely semantic.

Mine are always in the Plex app, even on TVs that have Plex apps because they cannot return to the exact same Plex screen.

It's weird that people are dropping hundreds or thousands on a tv only to cheap out on the device they are presumably using to stream their pirated content.

I have Apple TVs that have outlived their original TVs. From what I'm reading here many people are on their third or fourth chrome cast. Silly.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Folks who hate Apple will never see the product as good.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

The earlier CCs were slow and/or had less features.
Sorry but I don't like being stuck at 720p.

Also they are very cheap so replacing them is hardly of any value and you can still gift them to anyone else in need.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The only app I've run into without an official Apple TV flavor is Jellyfin, but there are two alternatives in the app store.

Unsure if there is anything like new pipe that can eliminate YouTube ads on Apple TV but that's really nice too.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What I meant with parity was the app catalogue.
For example some (F)OSS devs may only be available for AndroidTV.

Maybe not officially in the store but you can still sideload them to some extent.
Is that even possible for devices like the AppleTV?

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can sideload apps on Apple TV.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So unusual for Apple but very welcomed move.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

We’ve been able to sideload on iOS for quite some time.

There have been jailbreaks (equivalent to a root) for iOS devices for quite some time, newer devices take more time to break but it always gets there.

There is a lot of misunderstanding and tech bro tribalism around android and Apple that makes folks blind to what the other has and does

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I need to jailbreak/root my phone to sideload it's a workaround.
I mean sideload as a feature without hacking my device and with that (to some extend) compromise security.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can sideload apps without jailbreaking.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Since you started talking about iOS, do you actually mean the phone OS or ATV?

Because if phone OS: Since when were you able to sideload? Apple is still restricting it actively for all users and only now users in the EU will have the supposed option.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There have been tools to side-load apps for a while, it’s not an official process supported by Apple.

I haven’t had the need or want to sideload anything in a while so I’m not on top of it right now, but sideloadly appears to be the current tool for it.

I’m talking about both however.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

Q: How long will I be able to use the sideloaded app? A: A normal & free Apple Developer account only allows the app to function for 7 days. After 7 days you can sideload it again using  the same Apple ID, just make sure your progress is backed up. Apps signed with a paid Apple Developer Account can last up to 1 year.

I can hardly call that an intended feature and more a workaround very targeted to devs and not to customers.
The app may take care of it but...oh boy....