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[–] outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Bro, there is clearly a less-bad choice.

I hate that that’s what we’re reduced to, but we have one deeply uninspiring and frustratingly out-of-touch candidate, and one completely psychotic narcissistic authoritarian candidate. There is a very obvious “correct” choice here, both as an American voter and as a human.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 3 points 9 months ago

... depends on one's goal: a better or a worse America.

China and Russia, as the other superpowers, most definitely want a worse USA.

Iran wouldn't mind destabilizing the infidels.

What's boggling is that there are American voters who apparently want a worse USA. Though that seems to apply to quite a few western democracies.

[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bro, there is clearly a less-bad choice.

maybe, but it's still bad nonetheless

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

…yes…? It’s also less bad than the alternative. And you’re not going to be able to persuade me that voting 3rd party in the general is a good idea, because it is most definitely not a good idea if you want to prevent Trump from getting into office.

I hate the two-party system too. But pretending it doesn’t exist is a great way to get steamrolled by it.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This wasn’t the point though. It is that both options are bad. Yes, one is objectively less bad, but I’d guess a majority of Americans will not vote for Biden but instead against Trump.

I will absolutely cast a vote for Biden, but not because I like Biden.

I think most of the goddamn country is of the same mind

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you want to just hand the presidency to fascists because Biden is, while not an outright fascist, an extremely milquetoast candidate?

Pull your head out of your ass and at least try to be realistic.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For decades many voters in Western nations have collectively held their noses and voted for the person who they believed would do the least amount of damage.

This isn't democracy in action. It's simply having nobody to vote for.

[–] aew360@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is very much a millennial perspective. Looking at a demographic table, it’s overwhelmingly obvious that most Americans are boomers. And older people vote more often than younger people.

We may see Trump and Biden as weak candidates, but this is literally what they want. It is democracy in action. We just don’t outnumber the older Americans lol. It’s obviously changing. Otherwise Sanders wouldn’t have made it as far as he did in 2016 and 2020.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was born in the early 60's so nowhere close to a millenial.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

Then you're bucking the trend of your generation!

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