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[–] peachybuttcheek@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion: most migrants come to Europe from safe countries. We should absolutely 100% allow people who flee from war zones to take refuge in Europe. But most migrants who currently cross the border illegally are coming from places like Turkey or Morocco. Is there a war tearing these countries apart that I do not know about? I agree, asylum is a human right, but it’s just that: a right. It’s not an obligation. People abuse that right and then complain they’re not handed stuff on a silver plate.

If Europe went to war right now, like in the good old days, I’d flee to safety as well. No doubt about that. But I’d be happy to take refuge in the nearest safe country, not try to get into Canada illegally, just because I heard it’s a nice place to live.

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just a sheltered opinion. A few things you need to get out of your head:

  1. That so called 'safe countries' are safe for everyone. This doesn't say anything about those countries, it only says how little you know about them.
  2. People seek asylum trivially and are choosy beggars for going to X country (doesn't matter where, this kind of sentiment is always the same)
  3. Europe going to war was 'the good old days'.
  4. That Europe isn't at war right now
  5. The act of being born in a 'safe country' makes you more deserving of it than other human beings
[–] fritz@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Most people come from Turkey or Morocco? They might come from there but most of the asylum seekers nationality is not Turkish or Moroccan. Most asylum seekers are from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq or poorer African nations. This changed year by year of course but that’s generally true. Also of course EU states have an obligation to respect human rights, it’s literally law in the European convention of human rights. A right implies an obligation by somebody else to honor that right. What does it matter if your home country is at war or not? If you can’t feed your family due to economic problems or climate change or whatever, it’s more than fair enough to get out of there.