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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (12 children)

I have found a lot of websites over the last few months acting up if I'm using Firefox.

I have chrome for work and if I switch they work flawlessly. It's small things like menus not expanding or elements not loading.

There's a push on unifying browsers.

I've been Firefox and duckduckgo for years and it's getting a bit annoying. Obviously the trade off is worth it I do not want the big tech products but finding good alternatives is getting hard.

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 9 months ago (16 children)

Everyone says “problems with websites in Firefox!”

Nobody has examples

[–] flying_gel@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I use Firefox on Linux and FreeBSD for my daily driver.

I was not able to book flights on Thai airways website 6 months ago until I loaded it in chrome/chromium instead.

It's really really rare imo but that's one example in recent history.

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[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (7 children)

Not a very big website, but the service my therapist uses for teletherapy doesn't support anything outside of chromium.

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

try switching your user agent. it'll likely work fine.

red medical will act up if you don't use a chromium browser.

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[–] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Wow, that random news article I hit 16 days ago where the page kept flickering and reloading, but didn't do that when I copied the URL into Brave... I really should've recorded that domain so I could defend myself against some stranger online!

Sarcasm aside, I don't think it's generally the major websites that you bump into this with, however, there are many edge cases that occur for plenty of folks, whether they're in college and have to use that "secure browser" extension that only supports Chrome, or the fact that some websites, especially in business, that simply refuse to support browser and will prevent access otherwise.

I'm a Firefox user, so this isn't to say that Chromium is the way by any means, but hopefully to shine a little light on the fact that we're all on different parts of the web with different experiences, questioning their experiences so that you can hopefully find an extension or something to pin the blame them does not absolve them of their experience, just a show of elitism.

Firefox HAS gotten much better, but unfortunately, Capitalism's gonna Capitalism

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[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh, and I can't seem to get tiktok videos to play on Firefox on Android? Not a major issue, but my sister keeps sending them to me in particular for some reason, so...

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’ve always had TikTok blocked so I maybe o idea about that

Also a privacy browser not allowing the least private thing ever? Colour me shocked

[–] Silentiea@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

I mean, yeah. I'm none too bothered by that one, but it's still an example.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Yup I've noticed that too. I don't have tiktok personally but I get links from friends and sometimes I have to open them in the duckduckgo browser (chromium based)

[–] AlexTheAnnihilator@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I couldn't submit a support ticket for id.me (the IRS' stupid commercial partner for Identity verification) when using Firefox, the submit button literally did not work. Worked fine when switching to edge (blegh).

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I never had a problem verifying on Firefox a few years back so maybe it's a more recent bug?

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[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Example: The meeting webservice my bank uses is for whatever reason blocked for Firefox. Not sure if they just User-Agent check but they consciously block out Firefox users. I alerted my bank person about that but I doubt that's going to be any different next time I have a meeting with them.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure that's not an ad/tracker-blocking issue?

I've seen this on twitch, for example. Trying to log in with trackers blocked will throw up a dialog saying "your browser is not supported," but if you allow tracking, it works fine. And once logged in, you can block trackers again and the site continues to work normally.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 3 points 9 months ago

Nope they explicitly state in their support forums that they do not support Firefox and the Error Message you get recommends using Edge or Chrome. This is not an Ad-Block problem

[–] herrherrmann@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

I remember whipping out Vivaldi (which is Chrome-based) for booking a ticket on the Interrail website: https://www.interrail.eu/en

I haven’t fiddled much with weaker privacy/ad-blocking settings though, because I didn’t have the patience for that.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The search in the Walmart site has only been working on and off (mostly off) in Firefox, but consistently in Chrome. There's also some webpages for my university that only work in Chrome

Edit: looks like the Walmart search is working now though for me. The only reason I even have duckduckgo browser is because walmart.com was giving me issues on Firefox

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I just gave you an example of menus not expanding.

I'm not dogging Firefox I'm saying there is a consorted effort made to reduce it's usefulness.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I was about to say this. I never find any websites that doesnt work with Firefox so I'm genuinely curious.

I bet it's their ad blocker, or they have set their Firefox settings to the privacy level that says "this will break some web sites".

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

It happens rarely to me, and when it does 99/100 its the adblocker blocking something it shouldnt.

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[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

Not as much as Google though, so I've been feeling like it's been getting better and better, but it's just a comparative feeling.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To me it's worrying because it is where Google was when I jumped ship for DDG.

I am getting tailored results that I do not want. Everything I search even with location off gives me local to very local responses.

If I open a link and then go back to the results page all the results have changed order.

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

Makes sense. I can't blame you for taking that position. I think we need a paid search engine: if you're not paying you're the product, after all.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

Huh, never heard of this before. Thank you for mentioning it.

[–] ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today 4 points 9 months ago

You have to complain if your work does chrome specific stuff.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

DDG has gone downhill in recent years.

I haven't noticed this at all.

I've been a frequent DDG g! bang user over the years, but now almost never have to go it. Granted I use kagi for most searches now, but my phone still defaults to DDG, and I've noticed that it works just fine.

Google and therefore kagi are still better for stackoverflow indexing I believe, at least that's how I remember it

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is DDG g! Bang?

Yeah it is really odd I can't understand why it does it because the initial reason I moved to DDG was because of their big marketing push on not putting results or users into bubbles.

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Bangs is a cool DDG feature that redirects your query to another search engine in this case !g is Google

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kagi also does this, not that I've ever needed it

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I have just added all the other engines I use in browser itself. Kind of even forgot about bangs.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does it filter out the shite?

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is no modification, it just redirects you to the site

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does it prevent Google from getting your info or something so or what is the benefit in this over using Google?

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is no modification, it's just a handy shortcut, read about bangs here. You are not expected to use !g for all searches, only for those that you wish to search with Google. It's also possible to replicate this with browser search settings, DDG just has this built-in.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Oh that does sound very handy actually, sometimes their results can be useful

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 2 points 9 months ago

Sometimes those websites lied that they don't support Firefox. For example, google meet didn't support background blur on Firefox? Change the user agent to chrome and it suddenly worked!

As for simple stuff such as menu or elements not loading, it's usually the dev copy pasted outdated code/css that uses WebKit/Bink-specific prefix even though Firefox already support them if they removed the prefix. Nothing we can do about that except pestering the dev to fix it or overriding it yourself using some css overrides extension.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Like which sites specifically? I have yet to see one.

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