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  • A guaranteed-basic-income program in Austin gave people $1,000 a month for a year.
  • Most of the participants spent the no-strings-attached cash on housing, a study found.
  • Participants who said they could afford a balanced meal also increased by 17%.

A guaranteed-basic-income plan in one of Texas' largest cities reduced rates of housing insecurity. But some Texas lawmakers are not happy.

Austin was the first city in Texas to launch a tax-payer-funded guaranteed-income program when the Austin Guaranteed Income Pilot kicked off in May 2022. The program served 135 low-income families, each receiving $1,000 monthly. Funding for 85 families came from the City of Austin, while philanthropic donations funded the other 50.

The program was billed as a means to boost people out of poverty and help them afford housing. "We know that if we trust people to make the right decisions for themselves and their families, it leads to better outcomes," the city says on its website. "It leads to better jobs, increased savings, food security, housing security."

While the program ended in August 2023, a new study from the Urban Institute, a Washington, DC, think tank, found that the city's program did, in fact, help its participants pay for housing and food. On average, program participants reported spending more than half of the cash they received on housing, the report said.

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[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (6 children)

So the money went straight to the pocket of landlords. Cool.

You can’t give ordinary people money and not increase taxes on the rich. Otherwise it just becomes a wealth transfer from the state to rich people.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Well, at least some people who needed it got housing along the way.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd rather transfer it to them indirectly like this than directly like we've been doing...

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I prefer to do things right. I’m not against giving people money directly. But after historic tax cuts, it does seem like the government is just rubbing in our faces that our future is to become serfs in a techno-feudal nightmare.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There isn't really a "correct" way to distribute wealth though. Just different trade offs. At least in a UBI system the poor get to touch it first. It allows for nice things like heating in the winter.

Ugh, we're not heading for serfdom, that would suppose they still need workers tied to the land or factory in the future. Once a few more breakthroughs happen (It'll be 10 years away until suddenly it happens 50 years from now) Automation will make even their normal support staff extraneous. At that point they might keep some security around, and maybe some slaves as a statement. Everyone else just gets cut off. Oh it will sound reasonable and it'll take a couple decades once it really gets going but that's where Automation is heading if we let the wealthy elite "own" it. They'll make excuses about lazy poor people and how they can't keep people on as charity and they can't keep making food that people can't afford to buy... There's absolutely nothing in history that makes me think they wouldn't just remove the majority of humans from the planet if they could get away with it. They've proven time and again they don't value people as humans. Just as little labor widgets they can fiddle with.

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’d disagree that there isn’t a “correct” way to do it. Basically if the money stays with working class people, it’s good. If it just is absorbed by the richest people, it’s bad.

I didn’t say we were moving towards serfdom per se, probably only for a small amount of time. But we are surely moving towards techno-feudalism. Where rent-seeking is the primary form of wealth extraction, moving from profits being the primary one.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In a good economy money should circulate though. What you're thinking of is the wealth and standard of living it leaves behind. Giving money to rich people means it does nothing but sit in their bank accounts or the stock market. Poor people have things they need to buy so the money will circulate making the real economy work better.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So the money went straight to the pocket of landlords. Cool

Ya screw them for not wanting to be out on the street! /s

Nice one bro

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago

What… how do you think I’m blaming the individuals who got the cash? I would do the same if I were them, I don’t have a choice other than spending all my money on necessities. But isn’t that fucked? There will be less and less jobs, and the state will just keep giving measly amounts of money to us until we all become serfs. Working a month a year for the privilege of earning enough from the state for subsistence. While the rich become richer and richer until we are separate species and AI and robots advance far enough they REALLY don’t need us. Then what?

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

That's the whole economy. They used to call them "Haves" and "Have-Nots" because it's much more passive and absolving than the more accurate "Takers" and "Take-nots".

[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yep let's give it straight to the rich, just like the Dead Kennedys said.

Efficiency and progress is ours once more Now that we have the neutron bomb It's nice and quick and clean and gets things done Away with excess enemy But no less value to property No sense in war but perfect sense at home

Edit someone doesn't like the Dead Kennedys. Which is what they are here for.

[–] maness300@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago