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Honestly the constant bitching about 'NuTrek' is what makes me avoid Star Trek fans most of the time. I can rattle off episode names, quote the show, cite lines in episodes. Hell, I technically worked on a Trek show. Nothing makes me more embarassed than the incessant bitching and whining about how the new stuff isn't canon or how it supposedly breaks canon or how the writing sucks. People who have legitimate criticisms, voice them as such, but are still polite or at least optimistic? You people are heroes. But the rest of you who just throw stuff at the show and say how it sucks? Fuck y'all. We are getting new Star Trek after the franchise being abandoned for years and your first reaction is to bitch and whine.
Hell yes it's all canon. Hell yes the animation is amazing. I have a UFP flag on my wall and I'm proud of it.
the funniest thing about people who constantly complain about "nutrek" is that half of them haven't even seen TOS so the show that's "real trek" to them is literally just the nutrek og fans were saying ruined star trek in the late 80s
Oh God, so much this. I do not understand the blind hate for nutrek. Lower decks is hilarious, discovery fucking went for it, Picard gave us three of the most interesting story lines, SNW is throwing some of the best classic style storylines at us we've seen since Shatner could fit in his girdle, Prodigy has done a damn good job of making trek something parents can watch with their bains and not want to blow their brains out.
Honestly, I think a bunch of people (myself included to a degree) got so upset over the Klingons in disco that they've collectively decided anything after that is shit.
I totally got the hate at first. I thought early Discovery and Picard were terrible. What I don't get is people who have made hating new Trek such an identity, they're unable to ever shift position despite Discovery picking up from S3, Picard blowing it out the water with S3 and all the other new shows hitting the gate running. Not being able to change your view in the face of new evidence is the least Trek thing you can do.
I'm not going to lie. I had the same issue with the klingons at first. Not over their appearance, funnily enough. I thought it was an interesting take and considering the fact that klingons in TOS just looked like dudes I waved away an alien race looking a bit different. The thing that enraged me was the language. Either the dude who played T'kuvma had no time to practice Klingon or he had a truly terrible false teeth set that made it impossible for him to speak Klingon.
I did completely discount Discovery until Season 2 started and I decided to give it another shot by starting from the top. I'm so very glad I did. I have critiques of all the shows, and I mean OG and Nu, but I still love them all the same. Me being a gay dude and finally getting proper representation in Star Trek does mean that Discovery did get into my good graces very quickly. It's just nice to see a character that's like me for a change instead of sitting through the 17 trillionth heterosexual love story.
Hey now, don't be ableist against Klingons with speech impediments! \s
My nutrek hate is way more about JJ's galaxy-wide plot holes than it is Disco Klingons.