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[–] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Huh? Or are you implicitly referring to the belief that Jesus was God and thus in turn his alleged flight to Egypt?

Because if referring to the concept of a generalized monotheistic deity/creator, this comment makes zero sense.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

God was a desert god back in the day. All the regions in the area each had thier own protector diety. The storm/desert god eventually won out and spread and became the Abrahamic God we know today.

So really, they're right. God is an immigrant.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not really. The version of God depicted in the Bible is likely several different gods merged together.

Yahweh is of somewhat unknown origin/character - one of the more interesting theories was a metallurgy god, though it is likely that he was originally from the Shasu. Personally I think his role early on was as a consort god to Asherah and over time he became the main event and then sole event as the more matriarchal aspects faded in response to reforms.

El gets mixed in, who was a storm god.

Then you also have Baal even through they pretend he's always been the enemy - theomorphic names in early Israelite graveyards were 30% based on Baal, and it's possible Baal influence led to the Yahweh/Anat in Elephantine.

It's not really something simple enough to be laid out in a comment.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the El+Baal version is the one I was going off of. It's interesting stuff.

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you give a source for this? I’m super interested to read it. I detest religious idiocy, but fascinated by ancient roots of beliefs.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

On the other side (Yahweh) an interesting read is this particularly in light of the theft of Isaac's blessing from the eponymous founder of Edom by the guy whose name later changes to 'Israel.' (A birthright that's the only place the male form of "Great Lady" appears and a blessing which referred to "may your mother's sons bow down to you" - weird for a patriarchal blessing...)

[–] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago
[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I meant that one. The one you agreed with ;)

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Ok, so more "the God they believe in was an immigrant."

There's so many different conceptions of God as a concept/proper noun that it's otherwise a bit ambiguous.

But indeed, Matthew's Moses-ification of Jesus would have made him an immigrant.