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you're living in the fantasy world since you think philosophically mugging people is actually gonna convince them to vote for "genocide joe". I don't want the big bad orange guy to win, so you guys supporting biden need to do better. maybe make him take more popular positions instead of trying to shame people by talking to them like a child not understanding your superior ethics philosophy. just a thought.
AFAIU the Spanish civil war was lost to fascists because the opposition couldn't unite.
It's not the responsibility of any one faction to avoid infighting but it is everyone's responsibility to find common ground.
History rhymes.
exactly so while half of one faction already said "fuck it i'm with you" and the other half undecided, it would be very dumb of the other faction to not even move an inch or try to find a common ground, instead stomping their feet and saying "but i want vote now!!!!". that isn't good for coalition building as far as i know.
This is wild speculation but I'm not even sure the Biden administration understands what people want at this point though. I see sort of the same problem in Swedish politics. Left wing politics has stagnated and doesn't understand how to win people over. Alt right is growing.
The major difference is that we don't have first past the post so even when our alt right party is second largest and the right is in government their influence is somewhat limited. They certainly get to ship their agenda but at least there are others in the room with a voice when they do.
You're truly ignorant on the matter it seems. You say we should make someone take better stances? That's just dumb, if you don't have a progressive candidate nothing you say as a constituent matters. As someone who has written, emailed, met in person their representative I have not once felt I was heard. Letters and emails were responded to with generic responses, in person I either got to ask a question which got a non answer or brushed off completely.
Granted, I live in red state so what I have to say matters less and is more dangerous to be let known publicly. There's not much a lot of us can do to have our voices heard, short of a revolt. But I'm just going to keep doing what little I can in hopes that maybe we can keep chipping at the corruption. I'm going to keep campaigning and voting for representatives I believe try to actually help everyone, not just their chosen few.
Both Biden and Trump suck, but you better believe I'm voting for the lesser of two evils.
For people who claim to be concerned about fascists yall sure do spend way more of your time acting like faschies towards leftists than you do caring about Republicans.
You're living in a fantasy world if you think average citizens have any influence on policy making.