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[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And therein lies the problem. Every time men's issues come up, someone says "What about women?"

[–] platysalty@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

This is why I don't tell my mom my problems.

She'll just casually bring up her problems and now I have to make her feel better about it.

[–] CountZero@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you did not bring up a "mens issue".

You said "historically, shit sucks for men." That's such a broad statement that it's nearly meaningless.

Saying that men could at least vote, historically, is a concrete example where your statement doesn't apply. Do you have any concrete examples to serve as a counterpoint? I know those examples exist, but you just gave up on the conversation.

[–] Blamemeta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Men are drafted for wars, thats the first example that comes to mind.

Men have the dangerous jobs, miners, lumberjacks, construction workers, etc.

Men have no reproductive rights.

Men are ~3/4s of the homeless.

Men are ~2/3rds of suicides.

Basically its only good if you're at the top, and most aren't.

[–] thepixelfox@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

In terms of the suicide one, men use more lethal methods like guns for example. Whereas women use less lethal means, such as overdose/ cutting their wrists. So men have a higher success rate, but women attempt it more.

Men having no reproductive rights suck, I hate that men have to deal with that issue. It's a seriously unfair thing. Men shouldn't be allowed to tell a woman to get an abortion or to keep a baby, as ultimately it's her body. But in the case of a man not wanting a child but the woman does, they shouldn't be forced to then be stuck paying money. I'm not sure how something like that would work, but it shouldn't be just forced upon the man to pay for something he didn't want.