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[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Interesting, though I question why a battery backed RTC is seen as so critically important. Of all the features I can think of wanting in a router, a battery backed RTC doesn't even begin to make the cut. A device that is powered up 24/7 and connected to the Internet can just get NTP time whenever it boots up and keep time using the OS. What is so necessary about an RTC here? I get that time is used for certificate verification and other security stuff, but again NTP and always powered. Are they concerned that NTP could be an attack vector?

I'm interested in a new OpenWRT router as my WRT1900ACS is getting older and the WiFi driver on it never had amazing support. Right now the Banana Pi R4 looks promising as a WiFi 7 OpenWRT supported router as it looks like most off the shelf WiFi 7 routers do not have OpenWRT support.

[–] Sallp@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

A battery back RTC could make it faster and more reliable reconnect after power loss?

[–] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 9 months ago

Not all routers are connected to the internet

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because it's a simple and cheap way to significantly expand a devices capabilities and use cases e.g. cheap offline storage network, or other LAN only services. Or simply to provide your own basic NTP, or backup NTP, as these boards are based off ARM SBCs so perhaps adding 1PPS GPS modules would be possible.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Maybe for private key/cert validation checks when there isn’t a way to NTP to sync time?

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Network time was an attack vector against windows recently. It’s real easy to just not guess what time it is based on devices around you though and knowing what time it is helps you figure out what’s going on.

The real ask isn’t an rtc chip, it’s the battery socket and battery. Theres rtcs baked into all kinds of chips now, they just need something to keep em ticking.

[–] K4sum1@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

I've not had that much of a problem with my WRT1900ACv2, although I quite literally have nothing 802.11ax or newer.