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No, no. The vast majority of people who are interested and good at computer science are men or male. It is the truth. The world is also replete with women who say things like this, but basically can only write hello world to the console.
But exceptions exist and people who don't fit the common stereotype absolutely deserve to be allowed to do what they're good at.
So you learned enough about the history of computing to make claims like this, but not enough to know that practically all the first programmers were female and some even pioneered theory, techniques, and languages? For example Grace Hopper, who you are erasing from history here.
I call bullshit. Either you purposely ignore these facts, or your sexism prevented them from being remembered when you learned them.
Don't forget Ada Lovelace, the first computer engineer and the namesake of the Ada programming language.
She was a okay mathematician that did indeed "get" Babbages nonexistent machine (I forgot the name of it, analytic engine?). She wrote incredibly simple software for it. Who knows what she would have accomplished if she had a proper computer, but she didn't and we'll never know.
In the immediate Postwar years there were indeed some gifted women in the field, but they were never the majority.
The person who coined the term software engineer was a woman.
There is a reason several people have pointed out facts to you. You clearly want to deny the fact that women were very much a part of computer ENGINEERING
You're just being pedantic. Women were extremely pivotal in the creation of computing [insert more specific subfields if you want, doesn't change anything]. Your comments certainly all read as refuting this. It's not controversial to the non-incel community.
Oh so then perhaps you can link to these 1940-1960 statistics that somehow neatly and consistently segmented out computing roles into easy to define categories despite the fact that it was a new field and the lines between subfields were and always have been changing? Got a link handy?
Oh weird, apparently no such link
Grace Hopper literally invented the first software compiler.
If you dismiss software engineering as a form of engineering, then you have no qualifications to be an engineer and no business even commenting.
The original post didn't say the word 'majority'. I did not say the word 'majority'. Hell, you didn't even say the word 'majority', until that last comment I'm responding to anyways.
You said the word 'backbone'. Well, when you think about it, aren't compilers like the backbone of software engineering?
You're not gonna get very far writing your new fancy game by manually flipping all the bits one by one with a panel of switches, you need a compiler.
Why do you think the human computers weren't the majority of people creating the first electronic computers?
Yeah very true, and credit where credit is due. The majority of "computers", when that was a job title, were women who were very good at running quick calculations.
I'm not so sure I'd call them "mathematicians", but they were very good at what they did.
In my book mathematician implies someone who studies mathematics academically. Not someone who performs calculations for their job. By no means am I downplaying these women. In fact I'm certain they could do a lot of this stuff quicker than many or all academics.
Ada Lovelace, who was mentioned in one of these comments as the first programmer, was a proper mathematician.
Lol, I'm sure. They invented the integrated circuit, the instruction set, and most modern day programming languages. But all of their achievements were hidden by mean, jealous men.
Typically, smart and powerful people have the wherewithal and know-how to not let that happen, let alone en masse. That's part of why we might consider them smart.
The reality is that there were many female computer operators. Engineers and inventors, not so much. A few exceptions, but they were, as I have said, the exceptions.
Motherfucker, women used to be the vast majority of programmers. A woman was the one who led the team that wrote the code to get to the moon. She also coined the term 'software engineer.' So don't give us that bullshit that the vast majority that are good at computer science are men. And no, the world is not replete with women who claim they can choose but can only print to the console. Where the fuck have you come across that?
People like you are the main barrier for women getting into programming.
Absolute moron. I knew damn-well that you were going to mention Hamilton at some point because every simping imbecile does. Every single exception to the general rule, that males are more interested in IT in general, is proclaimed across the world as though it disproves said rule. Look, these women are smart, capable and deserve all the success they've attained. That does not mean there is not a general rule.
People who are generally smart and capable should not care about my approval to enter into programming. They'd do it because they love it, not for someone's approval. Frankly, if some woman doesn't enter into programming because of something some rando like me said online, I very much doubt she was much interested in it to begin with.