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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump is worse, hands down. Trump demonstrated willingness to subvert democracy, DeSantis seems to actually care about working within the system. Maybe that means DeSantis will have more success getting policy passed, but he's less likely to become a dictator.

[–] HandBreadedTools@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I highly disagree. The dude has made life for those he dislikes miserable in Florida. It has been so bad that multiple organizations have issued state of emergencies for trans people, from local trans organizations all the way up to the Human Rights Campaign. Trump is fucking horrible, Desantis is not a sliver better.

His policies consist solely of demonizing minorities and instilling facism as much as possible, I encourage you to read more about it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump attacked our electoral process in order to overturn a democratic election. He lost the electoral and popular vote, and refused to acknowledge it.

DeSantis signed some stupid bills, probably mostly to get his name out for a shot at a national election. He denounced the violence on Jan 6, but he played the political game by refusing to call it an insurrection. If Trump is convicted of insurrection/sedition, that looks bad for all Republicans, so it's the right political play. If you look at his career as governor, it's clear he's playing the political game to get his name known (going so far as to endorse Trump relatively early), but he just doesn't have that energy to show he would try anything close to what Trump tried in 2020.

So while DeSantis' policies generally suck, I don't think he's going to try to subvert democracy, he'll try to work within the system like any other politician to get the positions he wants. So no, I don't see DeSantis as a fascist, he's just a social conservative. Trump, on the other hand, has shown fascist tendencies due to his massive narcissism. It's personal for Trump, for DeSantis, it's a job.

[–] HandBreadedTools@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Desantis is a goddamn psychopath dude. Trump is obviously not someone that should have any type of power but Desantis is literally no better. His policies are fucking insane, his personal ideology is fucking insane, the voters he encourages and the culture wars he wages are fucking insane. It's not "just a job", it's the opportunity of power, something he seizes as much as possible. He is absolutely a fucking dictator if he gets the chance.

He came to my college campus a couple months ago, he kicked off his q and a with a prayer asking god to kill trans people. I'm not even saying that as a euphemism, the motherfucker literally said "and we ask you to stop the prevalence of transgenders by force if you need to" during that opening prayer.

Fucking insanity.

prayer asking god to kill trans people

Is there any journalistic corroboration for that? This sounds like something a political opponent would jump at, yet I can't find anything similar online.

What I can point to is Trump literally trying to subvert our democratic processes by overturning the election results.

So on the one hand, I have proof of an attempt to stay in power, and on the other I have someone with gross policies that seems to play by political rules. I'm much more worried about Trump than DeSantis.