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Moving to the fediverse

Hi guys, are you familiar with the fediverse? It's an open-source reddit-alternative that is owned and run by no one. So it doesn't suffer from the threat of a single hostile entity making drastic, unwanted changes, as we recently saw with reddit, resulting in the side-wide protests.

It would be great to have your subreddit join the fediverse! If you do, I would suggest not using lemmy.world, as it's already the largest instance and it's better to spread things out so no one has too much control.

Info:

You can even create your own instance like /r/futurology and /r/piracy did https://futurology.today, https://lemmy.dbzer0.com. If you do, you may want to seed your community with content https://futurology.today/post/166237.

Once you make a community on Lemmy you could sticky a post in your sub to let your community know, and/or create an automod sticky in each thread.

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[–] the_artic_one@programming.dev 85 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get that you've got good intentions, but this reads like an email I would find my spam folder and I can't imagine it would inspire any reddit mods to move over to Lemmy. The mods who were so dissatisfied with Reddit that they would be willing to migrate with the information in this script have already done so.

There are likely be some who might be willing to migrate if they get personal support from an instance admin or some other tangible offer of assistance, but nobody is going to jump ship just because "Reddit Bad" anymore.

[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Any suggestions for improvement? Or you think messaging mods is just completely useless?

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

you need to personalise it for each person and appeal to their unique interests. They are people, not bots.

[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah at the very minimum you should tell them which instance to use, don't make them choose

[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I would only message if it was a custom tailored message and you have a history in the sub (mods often check via RES/toolbox)

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think messaging mods is worse than useless. It is harassment that will make them actively not want to bother with lemmy.

[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a suggestion other than "do nothing"?

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Make Lemmy a place worth hanging out and having a discussion rather than desperately trying to recreate the shit hole that is reddit?

People weren't "organizing" to convince users of digg to migrate to reddit For The Greater Good. It was instead obvious digg was a mess and people went to the better site.

And everyone acknowledges that mastodon is much healthier than lemmy (... damn that is a low bar). And that is because there aren't swarms of people constantly trying to convince kylie jenner that she should post on mastodon instead. Instead, there is very much "This shit isn't twitter. Twitter sucked long before dipshit bought it" and it is building its own identity.

Whereas... a lot of y'all feel like the ex that sends texts a year later about how you bought a new shirt or you lost weight. And I am sure a few of you are looking to pick up some strange to show those jerks at reddit that your new boyfriend has an even bigger dick and knows how to use it before tearfully calling in the morning about how you are still in love with him and want him to take you back.

[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago

rather than desperately trying to recreate the shit hole that is reddit

I don't want that either. See my other comments.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

There are a couple of principles to ensure an activity drive like this is successful:

  • You need a significant number of contributors acting under agreed upon guidelines. The contributors will give you reach and the guidelines prevent singular actors from ruining momentum by taking counter productive actions with good intentions.
  • You need lead-up time to gather contributors and establish guidelines. In this case you would probably want some Reddit mods sympathetic to your cause so that it doesn't sound like the initiative is from a purely external group.
  • You need to leverage bandwagon effects. In this case those Reddit mods are critical to giving the impression that there is already momentum in this direction.
  • You need a well formatted landing page to establish initial impressions. A lot of folks will click on exactly one link before giving up on an effort. You need to make that link count.

I'm working on compiling guides and establishing a community to organize initiatives like this over at !digitalcommunitybuilding@slrpnk.net. The project is in very early stages but the hope is to ensure your digital activism is actually effective.

All that said I would strongly recommend against this approach unless you can make a BIG push and that takes time to organize and a lot of one-on-one conversation.

[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Anon518@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah it's working now.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Could be the federation bug between 0.18.5 and later versions. I was having trouble accessing from lemmy.world