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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Death penalty has no punitive value (it does not deter crime more than other punishments), it is purely manifestation of our sense of vengeance.

https://www.theadvocatesforhumanrights.org/News/A/Index?id=39

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Also it is irreversible, expensive and gruesome. It should not exist in a democratic nation.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

More expensive than housing and healthcare for the rest of their pathetic life? Gruesome is rotting in a cell homegirl. Are death penalty crimes reversible?

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes to all of those.
Civilized countries don't let people "rot in cells". A healthy prison system treats inmates with respect and gives them the opportunity to return to a regular life. Yes, even murderers and rapists.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So yes to it's cheaper to house and rehabilitate then hopefully integrate someone than to execute them? Might want to check your numbers one more time, those edibles are pretty strong

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't like drugs. I do like to back up my claims with sources though:

https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/capital-punishment-or-life-imprisonment-some-cost-considerations

People aren't just shot in the head by the judge. Death penalty is expensive.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Of course any TRIAL is expensive and if they win life imprisonment, you STILL have to pay all those trial costs.Im talking about the expenses to keep the person alive versus the cost to kill them not all the lawyer bills.Plus that study is almost 40 years old, you think anything has changed from 89 cuz?

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are death penalty crimes reversible?

Yes they are. For example, if they've got the wrong guy. You can hardly release someone who is innocent but dead.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's a conviction not the crime cutie

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't matter. The conviction is reversible, the death of a person isn't.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Exactly my point, you took my loved ones life. I'm not a Christian, now I take your life. We are even Steven :))

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Except it wasnt actually me, you got me confused with another person. Should my loved one then have the right to kill you?

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

My b, I'm getting popular 😂 if I killed them unjustly.. definitely.. is that a rhetorical question?? If my loved one killed another person unjustly then they should die as well as sad as id be.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who said anything about being a deterrent? I don't know about your experience but vengeance is sweet as fuck and why would I want to pay for someone to live their life if they are never leaving? I think I'm doing good with this topic, why y'all hating??

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why not not both? Vast majority of convicts don't need to rot in a cell, they can be rehabilitated if our system was set up for that. They're humans, dude, and all deserve to be treated with care and respect.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

We aren't talking about the majority dude, we are talking about the people who sexually tortured children before chopping them up and eating them. The guy who killed over 10 people just to see if he could do it. You need to set the pipe down girl and wake up..Not all humans deserve to be treated with care and respect. Do a little research on some heinous crimes and insert a loved one or family member's name you'll never see again