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[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe just throwing them in jail would be better. If you want to prevent them from continuing, just getting them out of society would be easier and more likely to catch on.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Except when it literally doesn't work. Take Mr swirl, for example, a pedophile who struck in multiple countries and was only in jail for 15 years.

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then you throw them in jail for longer, or you put them under house arrest after they are done. The best course of action in the case of pedophiles is to move them to places where they can no longer attack children e.g. "Miracle" Village

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think you understand. A pedophile is gonna do everything in they're power to affect a child in some way. Give then house arrest? The buy cp. Take away they're internet privileges? They buy an untraceable one and still buy cp. Put them in jail? Unless it's life without parole there is still a chance they can get out. And the miracle village doesn't really deal with the problem so much as put it out of view, and sex offenders aren't required to go here as it explicitly states that it is a safe haven for them.

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
  1. If the goals of the prison system include prisoner reform and/or "scare streight" tactics, it is quite likely a large portion will be reformed by the time the get out
  2. If you're not tech savy it seems quite difficult to obtain CSAM/cp without getting caught, between the numerous fed honeypots, google reporting cp searches, the use of photodna on every major social media site, majorly increasing the risk of pedophiles getting caught
  3. Additionally sex regastars allow people to identify individuals who have in the past commuted such crimes, preventing them from accessing children
[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can't beat or intimidate a sexual desire out of someone because it is literally hardwired into they're brain, people can learn to access parts of the internet like the dark web which the government has not yet figured out how to stop its existence, and even telling people isn't gonna eliminate the risk of it happening again because all it takes is one slip up or one minute for a child to be unattended.

[–] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
  1. Actually you can in fact reduce the desire to cpmmit sexual acts through classical conditioning and/or positive reinforcement, and it would be more efficacl then just killing them
  2. Additionally, most humans have empathy which can be used to show there actions were wrong, admittedly this will only work on some of them
  3. I agree, some would figure it out, but most would be caught or alternatively fear getting caught so much they don't try
  4. While the creation and "consumptiom" of CASM is just as abhorrent as the act itself, from a utilitarinist perspective "consumption" of such material, particually if gotten without exchanging anything, is much better then people trying to be fufilled instead by commiting sexual assault, as there are fewer victims involved.

To be be honest, I would be fine with imprisonment till old sentences or the house arrest equivalent. I would just rather not impose a death penitaly unless the person wants to die.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

And just how a behavior can be formed through conditioning it can be destroyed through a change in behavior or disruption in schedule. These people do not have empath because they have shown it quite clearly and the ones who do either haven't done this and are hiding these felling or are seeking help, and for you to suggest that them consuming cp is better because less kids are hurt is both sickening and wrong. Kids are still abused and there will be constant changing demand for such content, meaning more kids would get abused.