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[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Physical keyboard? Notification LED?

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I miss the LED for sure. How much money could that have possibly saved?

[–] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

For the physical part? A couple cents per phone sold.

But it's also one less part for for the circuit board designers to accomodate in their ever-shrinking layouts, one less part to inventory, track, and warehouse, one less behavior to verify by Q&A, one less SW and/or HDL code module to maintain, etc etc etc. When you look at the entire design, verification, and manufacturing process, multiplied by millions of units, every part and behavior carries a cost.

There are plenty of valid reasons to crap on the major phone manufacturers, especially when they take away features and capabilities we like. But "it's just one small part" usually isn't one of them.

[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

The notification LED is the only feature I truly miss

[–] buffalobuffalo@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

OLED displays have obsoleted notification LEDs. And phones with physical keyboards don't sell.

[–] Elektrotechnik@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

OLED displays certainly could, but there is no baked it app that wakes up the screen only if you have a message, blink in different colors or frequencies depending on the message and use the low power always on display api.

Yeah, you can glance at your always on display and make out the little symbol. But that's not an adequate replacement to the notification LED. If I had to guess, it was removed to drive up engagement with your phone.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No they don't.

Also, keyboard phones don't sell because they don't make good ones.

[–] steveman_ha@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't call the "always on display" some kind of innovative technology that makes notification LEDs obsolete... AOD is a battery draining complement to notification LEDs, not a replacement -- we just don't have the latter anymore because of corporate greed and consumer mentalities :/

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are notification apps to replicate the feature. A single pixel lighting on an OLED screen uses no more energy than a physically separate led. The CPU isn't sleeping to update the notification led either way.

[–] steveman_ha@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Appreciate the response. Figured this was "easily" do-able, but I honestly remember not being able to find anything pre-implemented for this a couple years ago when I last checked. Maybe my search, then, idk... Anyways, yeah, physically separate LED do sound a lot more obsolete with that in mind