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[–] shani66@ani.social 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Is this a trend or something? My grandma got a two pack for $5 and i thought it was just some generic grandma cup. The thing sucks, it isn't anywhere near worth that much money. It's shitty for traveling (too big and unwieldy) and it doesn't even seal as well as an actual thermos or bottle.

I prefer the crappy plastic bottle i got from work years ago, i could strap that thing to my belt if i went anywhere. Or wore belts.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck plastic bottles especially older ones. Yeah, w all have a fuck ton of microplastics in our blood but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care about it

[–] shani66@ani.social 9 points 11 months ago

I'd prefer a metal one, but this thing was free and it's better than the grandma cup

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Does using a plastic bottle for your water carry any sort of effect? I'm sure all the things stack up but I find it hard to believe that using a plastic water bottle instead of metal one really matters.

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is for bottled sold water, not from water bottles that you refill.

I'm sure using plastic anywhere in any form contributes to microplastics absorbed into ones body, but there is probably a difference? It's just important to be specific what a study says and not accidentally make assumptions.

Also though, I'm gunna keep using my refillable plastic bottle. Trying to manage intake of microplastics based on how much plastic I interact with seems tedious to the point of being impossible. Plastics are the kind of thing that need regulated. And while I might spare myself some microplastics hypothetically, it's not like the water bottle won't break down into microplastics in the dump if I replaced it with a metal bottle.

[–] JustMy2c@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the difference is it will take more time to check those so probably in ten years you'll see the same news but about thick plastics...

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 6 points 11 months ago

This is a guess but I would assume the bottling process in water bottling plants, and the manufacture of the disposable water bottles, contributes to the amount of microplastics more than passive decay of plastic. Really my main points/beliefs are:

  1. We should be careful making claims based on scientific studies to make sure they are accurate to the study, especially when it comes to claims about how a solution for a problem may be reached. A slight misunderstandings can cause good motivations to make things worse (like people collectively throwing away all their reusable water bottles and buying NEW water bottles made with metal, effectively turning millions of usable waterbottles into trash and creating demand for more polluting industry).

  2. Plastic pollution, microplastics, and everything related, is an overproduction industry problem, not an individual responsibility problem. While a concern for ones own health is individual, it's also almost impossible to meaningfully avoid microplastics with the current situation. The responsibility doesn't rest on the shoulder of consumers to collectively make good choices, but on governments to regulate and for owners of industry to be held accountable for the damage they have caused.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hah I actually posted the same study in a reply. Though it was a CNN article about the study.

[–] Steak@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does if you do it for years. I use glass and metal whenever I can.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

What sort of effect? From what I found they really didn't say, they said it (the plastic in your body) might have some adverse effect but didn't really know what. And more important than that, are the plastic water bottles how big of a source of the plastic compared to others.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Depends on the type of plastic but they all release shit from natural wear.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm sure they do but I was just wondering if it's amounts that matter and how big of a source a plastic water bottle is compared to other sources. Advice seems to be to avoid plastic water bottles. I found this recent article that was interesting https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/08/health/bottled-water-nanoplastics-study-wellness/index.html

Seems like there's a lot the scientists don't know yet but they advice to try and lower the amount of plastic. A breakdown of sources of that plastic would be handy in knowing what to eliminate.

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's no way your grandma bought two Stanley brand cups for $5. I've been using a Stanley pint glass for years, and if I put ice water in at at night, there will still be ice in it in the morning. It's vacuum insulated.

$45 for a 30 or 40 oz cup with a straw is too much because there are cheaper brands that do the same thing for half the price.

You will have to pull my 40 oz insulated cup out of my cold dead hands. Waking up in the middle of the night in the summer thirsty and being able to sip on water that's still ice cold from 8 hours ago is so nice!

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I recommend Zojirushi thermoses.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago

Zojirushi anything. High quality stuff, that.