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Banks hit with $549 million in fines for use of Signal, WhatsApp to evade regulators’ reach::Wells Fargo, a relatively small player on Wall Street, racked up the most fines Tuesday, with a total of $200 million in penalties.

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[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 100 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's cost if doing business for them though, the "fines" are a farce, just protection money paid to a gang.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

they really need to start with forfeiting all profits. and then maybe a percentage-based fine on top of that.

make it really painful, in the only place these people can be hurt.

[–] Risk@feddit.uk 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about sending the people responsible to prison?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

it's more complicated when it's an entire corporation. Corporations only care about the bottom line so they'll let their minions take the blame. The only real solution is to hurt them in the wallet enough that they have to play by the rules to make a profit.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really. Put the C suite in prison and I'm sure the next crew will think twice. They can try and throw underlings under the bus but we don't have to accept that. The buck stops at the top.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't put people into prison for things they didn't do, and demonstrating RICO is a lot harder than it sounds. I guarantee you, you start going after their profits and making them take losses, the behavior stops immediately, and across the board.

they'd just get another C-Suite.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

But they did do something? They ran a company in an illegal fashion. If they didn't act directly they were negligent. Either way, lock them up.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

They always defend their ridiculous income by saying that it's proportional to their level of responsibility? Then the board is responsible for everything that happens in the company unless they can pin point exactly who did what under whose guidance.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Send the whole corporation to prison since they have legal rights same as I do (but I can't afford to enforce mine).

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

hey, I'd be down for that. just one question..... ... how?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

They need to start throwing these criminal fucks in prison.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They'll just pass it along to the customers though, that would have to be made very illegal first.. and even then they'd probably do it anyway and blame it on the tellers. In the sea of illegal things Wells Fargo has already done that wouldn't even make a ripple.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Can't pass anything to the customer if your business got closed by the authorities.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

I feel like they need to apply charges like conspiracy and fraud against the individuals responsible. When I worked in national security oriented roles, the standard response when being asked to break the law (eg reveal classified info) was to say “I could do that, but I look really bad in orange.”

If the individuals being asked to commit violations and crimes were held individually responsible more often, people would be less likely to do it.

White collar crime costs the economy far more than other kinds of crime, and that’s due to a lack of enforcement caused by misaligned priorities.

[–] demonquark@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Fines as a percentage of revenue. A big percentage. That’ll stop this nonsense.