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    wayland meme i found on discord (lemmy.world)
    submitted 1 year ago by siriusmart@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    [–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Outdated meme, NVIDIA has had good Wayland support for over a year now

    [–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It didn't work well for me, I tried Wayland recently with both nouveau and proprietary driver and encountered bugs. Had to switch back to X.

    [–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Interesting, what GPU and DE did you use? Distro? I was able to get things running smoothly on my GTX 1070 with Wayland and KDE Plasma.

    With NVIDIA, you also do have to set up DRM (Direct Rendering Manager): https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA

    [–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    2080ti with sway/wlroots. Distro is Gentoo.

    I had everything set up properly, nouveau devs confirmed it was a bug (I was getting a kernel warning when using a certain OpenGL application)

    The proprietary driver had unbearable flickering/screen tearing on Wayland.

    I will say that besides that one application the nouveau driver worked great but unfortunately it was a deal breaker for me.

    [–] someguy@lemmyland.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's an open issue for xwayland for a lot of the flickering issues under nvidia, with a lot of disagreement about how to solve the issue: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317

    [–] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 3 points 1 year ago

    This issue is definitely the biggest blocker for me using Wayland right now. No Night Light is annoying, but can be worked around.

    However, this issue - not as much...

    [–] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 points 1 year ago

    Seemingly fixed on kernel open driver!

    [–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Wait— doesn’t sway require you to enter —my-next-gpu-wont-be-nvidia to launch?

    I didn’t think sway would ever work with Nvidia.

    [–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago

    With nouveau you don't need any special flag, with the proprietary driver you have to use --unsupported-gpu or something like that

    [–] Kangie@lemmy.srcfiles.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Nouveau sucks for anything post 1000 series, it's just not there yet.

    I'm on Gentoo and my 2000 (and 3000) series card is perfect on Wayland under KDE Plasma.

    Give it another go - I'm pretty sure your issue isn't "Wayland" or NVIDIA".

    [–] jdaxe@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

    I'm an i3 user so sway was the easiest way to transition for me, so I think I'll just wait for sway to improve with regards to NVIDIA drivers before I give it another shot.

    [–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't get it. What's "Wayland"?

    [–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wayland is a windowing system, sort of. It's a replacement for X11. It changes how graphics are done on Linux machines, and has a more modern and secure approach which offers better performance and efficiency. It notoriously doesn't work very well on NVIDIA, because NVIDIA for a long time didn't allow the community to write drivers for Linux and didn't want to put effort into making it work correctly. This has changed recently but there are still some headaches with certain desktop environments or window managers.

    This is a video from 2 years ago that tries to explain Wayland. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1BoZnekkyM

    It's a lot more usable now than it was when this video came out though, I run it every day.

    [–] siriusmart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    wayland has worked perfectly for me in the past year, but still here's a recent wayland meme video by Virbox https://youtu.be/t5NCvrYbIac

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