Socialism means one thing: democratic control over the economy. It's radically left-wing in most of the world, and because of that socialists also advocate for other radically leftist ideas. I'm one of the radical leftists that don't believe governments should exist at all in their current form, but that's not what makes me a socialist.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

isn't government not existing just a form of libertarianism? (not trying to argue or anything; just genuinely curious)

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Kind of. Communism itself is described as a Stateless, Classless, moneyless society, and Anarchism is Stateless as well. Socialism is just collective ownership of industry.

[–] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 10 months ago

before chuds hijacked it, libertarianism was always associated with the left. it was variously called anarchism and libertarian socialism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Socialism being more international isn't just because it's radical, but because Communism can only exist fully if there is no Capitalism anywhere to re-emerge. What you've said is correct, just incomplete IMO.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Depends on whether you think socialism is inherently globalist, which I wouldn't say is necessarily true.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

It might as well be considering the history of cross-country support. Class above nation, after all.