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Pregnant people in New York would have 40 hours of paid leave to attend prenatal medical appointments under a new proposal by Gov. Kathy Hochul after the state’s legislative session kicked off this week.

The Democrat’s plan to expand the state’s paid family leave policy, which would need to be approved by the state Legislature, aims to expand access to high-quality prenatal care and prevent maternal and infant deaths in New York, an issue that especially affects low-income and minority communities.

The U.S. infant mortality rate, a measure of how many babies die before they reach their first birthday, is worse than other high-income countries, which experts have attributed to poverty, inadequate prenatal care and other possibilities. The U.S. rate rose 3% in 2022 — the largest increase in two decades, according to a 2023 report by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The US, the last western country lacking maternity leave. Compare that to what other countries do, providing months of maternity leave.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's a shame the entire country doesn't have it, but many states including New York do already. One advantage of a federal system I guess.

Here's a summary of parental leave by state if curious.

https://www.paycor.com/resource-center/articles/maternity-leave-laws-by-state/

There really should be a national requirement though.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Federal FMLA is unpaid yes. Many individual states have their own paid leave policies though. The link I posted shows you the policies in each state.

[–] Birdie@thelemmy.club 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I counted correctly, there are 4 states that require paid leave. Another 6 where nothing is mentioned pertaining to paid/unpaid. And 22 states that don't mandate any leave at all...might be 23 since Kansas is just left blank.

In other states, you may or may not get leave (unpaid) depending how many employees there are at your job.

We really do suck in the US.

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't disagree, just getting that info out there so if you're in one of the 10 states or the district of columbia that does have it, you know to access it. I've heard from people in states that have it that just assume they didn't since there's no national program.

This one's a map which makes it easier: https://onpay.com/hr/basics/paid-family-leave-by-state

The map is also nice because it shows which states have passed laws that will be taking effect in the future. Looks like 6 more on the way.

[–] AnxiousOtter@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Chiming in from Canada, wife and I are about to go on parental leave for our first child. I'm taking 3 months, she's taking 18.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I work with a lot of American vendors from Canada and we recently all said congrats and goodbye to a project manager on the vendor side who was taking her mat leave. When I came back from vacation I was surprised to see her in the weekly meeting... she had less mat leave than I have vacation.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

My wife and I (Canadian & American Ex-Pat) did the same thing, but she took 9 and I took 3. It was one of the best and most meaningful times of my life. It allowed me to bond with my daughter in a way I hadn't gotten to.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't be harsh. They have to give all their money to Israel. There is very little left for US citizens.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Regardless of the implications of what happens with the aid that's given to Israel, it's a tiny slice of the federal budget. It has absolutely zero to do with why we don't prioritize taking care of our citizens' health.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Do companies have to pay employees for months while they're not doing any work?

Or is it the government who allocates taxes to fund maternity leave?

As a business owner, a woman would have to provide enough value to the company to make up for potentially missing months of work while being paid in order to get hired over a man with no such risk.

[–] ElderWendigo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I see you're operating under the misunderstanding that only women have to take time off of work to care for children. Or maybe you just think that somehow women are having babies all by themselves without men at all.

WOMEN DON'T HAVE BABIES, FAMILIES HAVE BABIES. EVERY PERSON DESERVES THE HUMAN DIGNITY OF BEING ALLOWED TO CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

I'm sorry for yelling, but it's a fucking important. You're backwards thinking is a key failure of capitalism and a shining example of toxic masculinity.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

We have national maternity leave here, but I recently worked at a company that gave the father 4 months off to be used however they wanted over the next year after their child was born. Was really heartwarming to see them give that extra benefit to help him spend time with the new family.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Typical fertility rate is a bit under 2, people work about 40 years. This would thus work out to 80 hours of paid sick time over a career . With two weeks standard vacation time, 40 hours a week means 80k hours over a career. If you can't afford to have an employee subtract 0.1% from their working time over 4 decades you really need to sit down and reevaluate your business. Since you evidently are not capable of staying in business with an employee that is "only" productive 99.9% of the time vs 100%.

Sure you can come up with situations. A very very small company and it is the busy season where it will suck. But even then no one should be that close to the margin.