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[–] SCB@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If you care about downvotes, then I could see your point about the Fediverse being hostile to some more mainstream opinions.

I don't - that's why I'm still here. Most people do.

I regularly get called a Nazi just for saying Israel is demonstrably either not committing genocide or is so laughably bad at genocide that the claim is irrelevant.

30k people dying is bad, and the war is especially brutal, but the US killed nearly that many civilians in Mosul, and that wasn't genocide - the topic was never even broached. Modern war is horrific for civilians. That's why war is not seen as a good thing.

That take will absolutely get you called a Nazi if you post it in Politics or News/World News. This is a very normal position to have, and a significant majority of people will agree with everything above in the real world - these people aren't going to hang out here.

I think what it comes down to though is that the fediverse experience requires some curation and restraint compared to other larger platforms

Yes, this is why it will stay small and insular until changes are made, which is what I'm advocating for.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

With sensitive, charged, and tragic topics such as the Israel-Hamas war; that same vitriol is going to be thrown on any platform. And in my experience is worse on other platforms like tik tok and Reddit.

There is discussion to be had on the topic but probably not on social media. Politics and News communities typically have to be heavily moderated. Even on old school forums the politics thread/board is usually just as vitriolic. I usually don’t participate in those threads anywhere.

I feel like more of the stuff that is egregious is commenting or posting something along the lines of “I like cars” or “I like my job” and someone comes from the All feed with a “fuckcars” or “antiwork” reply. The unnecessary antagonism outside of their community is what bothers me. But even then, those are easy to ignore.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Politics and News communities typically have to be heavily moderated

Strong agree, and I also agree that things will be tense and some leeway should be given. That's not the line we're walking here, though.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I regularly get called a Nazi just for saying Israel is demonstrably either not committing genocide or is so laughably bad at genocide that the claim is irrelevant.

This being the internet, you might be simply being downvoted because you are wrong. As the old adage goes, the easiest way to ~~raise engagement~~ find the answer to a question on the internet is not to post the question, but to post a wrong answer.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That might be relevant if my point wasn't the hostility, rather than the disagreement. I don't give a shit if you disagree with me - you're allowed to believe whatever you want.

The hostility costs this place users, and this is a thread about advertising for more users.

Perhaps consider reading the entire comment before posting.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lemme cap this: showing a defensive (or counteroffensive) posture against people who sport passive support for genocide "costs users"... and not wanting those users is somehow bad?

Sounds quite simple math to me: while we could mayhap be advertising for more users, we don't need to cater to everyone.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not agreeing with you does not imply support for genocide.

[–] thethirdobject@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Disagreeing with someone saying there is a genocide happening, when there is indeed one happening, is not just a matter of opinion, it is effectively denying the suffering of thousands, or giving it some legitimacy. You can't just complain about hostility when your opinion, whether consciously or not, carries its own share of violence.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Disagreeing with someone saying there is a genocide happening, when there is indeed one happening

That's your mistake.