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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And here again we see the typical attempt to put words in somebody's mouth. I never said anything about what poor people deserve, that's your words, not mine.

When you don't have a substantial rebuttal, you just make up a strawman argument.

IMO everyone, regardless of economic stature, deserves every form of freedom legitimately available in society. For this example, if a poor person couldn't afford a car I would suggest a cheap used motorcycle. I've bought a couple of those, one was $900 and the other was $2500.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is incredibly insane when you consider the cost incurred to maintain a vehicle. No poor person would do this in the right mind it would be nothing but a debt trap. It's shameful that public transit is downright near illegal and most metropolitan areas in North America and it is the best solution get over it

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're overestimating the cost to own a vehicle. My costs are very low overall. I spend about $50 a month on gas or less, and I have no car payments, and my insurance cost is about $100 per month. Total cost of ownership for my 2 vehicles is less than $200 per month, and I can drive them anywhere I want at any time.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've both been poor and owned a few vehicles and $2000 repair bills happen, more than once in the life cycle of a car and much more than I could ever afford if I hadn't been better off before I pulled the trigger in cars but down take my word for it John Oliver did a great peice on how bad of a debt trap they are on average