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A lot of folks from the US seem to think the Nazis were socialists, because they called themselves "nationalist socialists" and well, by US standards, the Nazis were rather socialistic, too.
But the other big parties at the time were:
So, yeah. You did not vote for the nationalist socialist party, because you wanted socialist politics.
Here’s a copypasta that I put together two years ago yesterday in response to the usual “but it sez soshulist in the name” arguments (this isn’t an argument against you, per se, it’s just there for anyone to use in the event of such arguments):
—Ian Kershaw, Hitler: A Biography, 2010
—Richard J. Evans, The Coming of the Third Reich, 2004
—Joachim Fest, Hitler, 1973
And finally, don’t forget that the Nazis banned the Social Democrats and other leftists from politics, and that the holocaust focused on more than just Jews:
—United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
I’m just glad I hadn’t deleted it. Guess I’ll continue to keep it.
So Hitler went from door to door killing off political opponents. Alex Jones has been insisting that Democrats have been doing this on the reg for the past thirty years. Seems to have worked pretty good for Hitler, and probably would have continued to do so if not for invading neighboring countries and genociding Jews. Since MAGAts are an actual terrorist organization with plenty of kills under their belts, we can probably avoid invading neighboring countries or genociding Jews.
The Nazis were not socialistic by any metric, unless your definition of socialism is the government doing stuff, but especially not by New Deal America standards.
That basically IS the majority opinion on the definition here in the modern U.S, so their point stands.
Only if you believe in only letting idiots define what words mean.
That just goes to show how ignorant the average American is. Not what any word means. By that definition all governments would be socialist. Which clearly isn't the case. Unless you're one of those people that likes to imagine themselves both capitalist and libertarian.
Not if they're just straight up wrong about the definition.
I feel like there's plenty room for different interpretations here and I truly do not care to make a point about which Nazi policies were good, ackshually.
My metric here was that I assume modern US Republicans would want to roll back the socialist structures put in place by Bismarck (mandatory health insurance & retirement saving).
The NSDAP didn't, and that was the very least that they virtue-signaled by calling themselves "socialist".
Folks from the US: "DDR was a democracy! Why else would they have "democratic" in their name?!!?"