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Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll

A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has benefited them or the country.

Just one in 10 believe leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation, against 35% who say it has been bad for their finances, while just 9% say it has been good for the NHS, against 47% who say it has had a negative effect.

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[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (6 children)

IF the UK rejoins the EU at any time in the future, we will certainly never have the preferential terms and disproportionate power that we'd originally had. Defacto not as good as a deal. However, STILL much better to be part of the EU than to be circling the drain as we are right now.

[–] butterflyattack@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am still furious about Brexit on a personal level. Freedom of movement was amazing. It meant that I could just decide to go live and work in an EU country whenever I wanted. I had previously used this to spend a couple of years in Spain and maybe a year in France. I'd been planning a move to Portugal when Brexit took this away from me. All those opportunities gone because of dumb fuckers who didn't even realise we had them. Ignorant bigoted wankers. Goes without saying I voted remain. I'd be delighted to rejoin, and if it means we adopt the euro that's fine with me. It won't happen for at least a decade though, and at my age that'll be too late for me.

[–] fadhl3y@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No, they realised that they had the freedom of movement. The Brexit vote was in part to punish people like you because you still had that freedom.

[–] Senshi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And getting rid of the unfair preferential terms is good for the EU as a whole, because it will reduce resentment in all other current and potential future member nations.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely believe Brexit hurt everyone in Europe and I can't wait to welcome UK back into the Union, but make it on equal terms. It's a very small silver lining to the whole fiasco. I just hope it doesn't take too long for UK to find a leader string enough to say "I think we made a mistake, we should reapply". Make a new referendum while the populace still realizes the connection between Brexit and the current misery before some populist schmuck finds a new scapegoat.

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Agree completely. The old arrangements were compromises to get the original deal dome. That was half a century ago and a lot has changed.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To me, I never understood the desire to leave. Even the people who being talking heads for Brexit actively benefitied financially from UKs position in the EU. The choice to leave was roused up on a bunch half truths and bold face lies to scare the the general public of hatining anything south of the channel... Despite getting so much benefit.

Smartest thing they could do is beg their way back into the EU and claw back what ever benefits they had enjoyed like stated above there is no scenario where UK ends up good as they were back in 2016 let alone in a better bargaining position, but they also don't have to throw away their future prosperity based on stubborn pride.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's hysteria.

but they also don’t have to throw away their future prosperity based on stubborn pride.

Lol, but they will.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think it's best for the EU if the UK doesn't have preferential treatment.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Want it said that if the UK rejoined then they'd have to go on the Euro?

[–] speedyundeadhittite@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If and when UK is allowed back in, this time they will not be offered all of the opt-outs!

Welcome, Schengen and Euro!

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That would be nice for Ireland, we could finally join Schengen which is currently out of the question because of the open border with Northern Ireland.

Maybe it's finally time for northern island to jump ship

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm not an economist, but what I have seen is the decline in the value of Sterling since Brexit as well of the downgrading of the UK credit rating. Even if we adopt the Euro, the value of the same goods will still vary between different countries. However, the same silly arguments will arise again saying that the is EU taking over.

[–] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That isn't really an issue, either Denmark or Czechia don't want the Euro but said they'll get it so they skirm around the ascention criteria a bit. Can't see why the UK couldn't do the same.

[–] MrAlpharius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That isn't an Issue, jet. But it could be in the long run.

The fact that the EU haven't taken measures in that matter doesn't mean it will not do it in the future.

[–] unrelatedkeg@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah I get it, but still. Britain got its priviliges in the EU by being a part of it for a long time. If it becomes a problem in some 20 years, Britain probably won't be alone, will have been a member for a longish time and will most definitely be better off than outside the EU. And if it comes to it, they'll be able to leave again.

At least they'll have the most experience in leaving which might make the second time at least a bit more painless.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Everyone says this, but I think the EU wants Britain back in enough to make some exceptions again. The way I look at it is that it doesn't hurt to try.