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KDE's Nate Graham On X11 Being A Bad Platform & The Wayland Future (www.phoronix.com)
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Well known KDE developer Nate Graham is out with a blog post today outlining his latest Wayland thoughts, how X11 is a bad platform, and the recent topic of "Wayland breaking everything" isn't really accurate.

"In this context, “breaking everything” is another perhaps less accurate way of saying “not everything is fully ported yet”. This porting is necessary because Wayland is designed to target a future that doesn’t include 100% drop-in compatibility with everything we did in the past, because it turns out that a lot of those things don’t make sense anymore. For the ones that do, a compatibility layer (XWayland) is already provided, and anything needing deeper system integration generally has a path forward (Portals and Wayland protocols and PipeWire) or is being actively worked on. It’s all happening!"

Nate's Original Blog Post

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[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

yeah but the point is why bother? :) especially if I wouldn't notice differences...

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because it fixes all the issues I had with X. Everything runs a bit faster and is smoother plus inputs behave like they should.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

sorry, my rhetorical question was obviously intended as why I should bother. I don't see any value in stopping you doing whatever you think is better for you, in fact it is exactly what annoys me the most :)

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

why I should bother

Bother to do what? As you said, when your distro switches you go with it and notice no difference. You don't have to bother to do anything.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yes!

[–] bastion@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago

The point of open source is kinda that you have the freedom to do as you will.

The point of packaged distros is so that you don't have to do too much.

Do as you will, brother, do as you will.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well Xorg is pretty much unmaintained and is on its death bed. Modern hardware and software are slowly favoring Wayland due to it being much simpler by design.

[–] superbirra@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

well, everything which I use runs well on xorg, and I'd need to change relevant parts of my daily stack in order to use wayland sooo ... :)

[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why bother what?