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[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As Voltaire once said: You’re either the hammer or the anvil.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The full quote is

You must be either the servant or the master, the hammer or the anvil.

Surely there was no reason to hide the argument that servants and masters are a necessity in advancement of the point you're outsourcing to someone that died over 300 years ago in defence today's economic structure?

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We still heed the advices of Adam Smith, Henry George, Karl Marx, etc. What’s so different about an Enlightenment writer?

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Noone was citing those figures, but Marx saw the industrial revolution, at least. We take what's relevant, and dismiss what isn't - implying Voltaire was smart, so we should uncritically agree with everything he wrote is unhinged.

Would you rather defend the necessity of the master/servant model, or concede that the argument you outsourced is irrelevant pre-industrial nonsense?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 10 months ago

We don't heed the works of Karl Marx though do we? Even if you are that way politically inclined it's called Postmarxist now. Because Karl Marks was frankly insane.

It's the same reason we don't really pay much attention to anything that Sigmund Freud came up with. All of it has either being subsequently discredited, or was never really taken seriously to begin with.