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But I love death (lemmy.world)

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[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didnt call your ethical framework insane, I’m talking about your statement saying you have more empathy for animals than vegans have for you, which is beyond ridiculous to say

Have you ever heard of the personal incredulity fallacy?

You literally strawmanned my argument

Did I? What exactly do you think my ethical framework is if it's not either ignorance or lack of empathy... when you directly accused me of having less empathy for animals?

It’s a logical question that you just didnt answer.

Where do you ever ask me a question that I didn't answer?

Taking ‘abuse’ from vegans… maybe we are just convinced its morally okay, or does being a victim not feel good to you?

Rephrase please, so I don't get you even more on the defensive by answering the wrong question. Because this one came across as a softball one that you would not like the answer to.

As for the last thing you said, I have literally no idea what you are talking about.

I have sat through a "discussion" where several of my gay friends were told "we want people to stop doing a bad thing, that doesn’t mean we don’t care about those people". I have a friend who was kicked out of his home at 15 to almost that exact phrasing. Preachy Vegans come across EXACTLY like that to everyone else in the world. When I look a preachy vegan in the eyes, I see that bigoted Catholic dad who kicks his kid to the curb.

Do you have kids? What would you do if one of them came out non-vegan to you? What if they decided their calling was ranching? I've got a cousin who got a degree in dairy farming and he LOVES it.

[–] norawibb@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

No I heard your sentence and called it stupid and I still can't believe you are going with it because it is laughable. Go on, explain how you are nicer to animals more than vegans are to you. You are still alive so we haven't eaten you yet... Do you kill and eat people you care about?

You said you are taking 'abuse' from vegans in the same comment you said you see nothing wrong with killing and eating someone. I can't take your victim point seriously when you refuse to acknowledge the feelings of your victims.

As your your gay friends thing, its a false equivalence despite what the words are. Gay people don't have victims. Nonvegans do. I'm defining "bad thing" as an action that harms others. Being gay is also not a choice and is nothing like being nonvegan. You aren't a fucking minority for being nonvegan. What a dumbass insulting argument.