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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Can someone please tell me exactly what I'm supposed to be wearing?

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

Adopt actual sheep, and just strap them to your body for warmth.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So generally the entire clothes industry is slavery ridden and completely fucked. Trying to follow the supply chain is basically impossible.

I would suggest essentially as little as possible for as long as possible, plant fibres probs good. synthetic not really that bad given the whole state of everything it's small fries in terms of plastic waste.

get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (4 children)

get local tailors to make clothing if you can afford it

Anyone who can afford that is not doing it to be sustainable and humanitarian and I think you know that.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wtf are you talking about? I'm not super rich, but i get some things done with a local tailor and one of the biggest reasons is to support local business and avoid overseas slave labour

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I look forward to Christmas every year so I can finally get new socks. You might not be super rich, but you're certainly not poor, either.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

You really don't know what choices someone is making. If you replace clothing about once a decade and don't own much it's not very expensive.

High up front sure but maybe someone is eating cheap bean and rice based food, maybe they don't buy alcohol, maybe they don't own a car, maybe they buy used stuff rather than new whatever. There are loads of ways for many people to squirrel away the funds to get an item made here and there. Yeah obvs if you're destitute it's impossible and right now with economies going to shit way more people are losing money each week but prior there were choices people could usually make.

Yes it involves giving up other things and it can be stressful and difficult but that's expected. Slavery makes things cheap in dollars and high in human misery.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

"Some things." So not all of your clothes. In other words, you also can't afford to wear all cruelty-free clothing.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Depends on where you live. In European cities it will be expensive to get new things tailored, but there will be shops only for changes and repairs, which will be cheaper, for example.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yes, but we're talking about buying clothes, not getting them repaired.

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That really is a 'where you live' thing. When I lived in SEA I could buy a button down shirt you could wear to work for about $5, going to a tailor and having one bespoke was $6 in cotton, or $15 in silk. Wool was actually more expensive since there was no domestic production.

[–] matjoeman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does SEA mean Seattle or South East Asia?

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Sorry, southeast Asia

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That really depends. If you buy a tshirt it was probably made paying someone like 5c a day.

If you find someone who makes clothing, just a normal arse person not someone catering to the rich, they can probably make a basic tshirt to your rough size in about 3 hours or so. If they're paid a reasonable fee that's going to be in my country for example 200 aud or so factoring in material. A sweat shop T would be 20 to 50, or even 80 in a high end store so it's really not much more expensive.

Wear it till it has holes in it so say 5 to 10 years and it's really not that expensive.

More complicated clothing gets more expensive but a basic wardrobe is something like 3 Ts, 3 long sleave tops, 2 heavy pants, 2 light pants/skirts etc. you don't need to buy it all at once. Sometimes you need more clothes than that, e.g. you're a woman and you work customer facing but most people have waaaaay more clothes than they need.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

but a basic wardrobe is something like 3 Ts, 3 long sleave tops, 2 heavy pants, 2 light pants/skirts etc. you don’t need to buy it all at once.

No, you just have to do laundry more than once a week. Most people who don't have their own washer or dryer don't have time for that.

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What are you doing where you can't wear pants for a week or a top for 3 days?

Hard labour you don't wear new clothes you wear your old tattered stuff and hand me downs/second hand etc, or toughened workwear.

It sounds like you want to find a reason to do nothing rather than do what you can. Like if you want to avoid enslaving others and animal cruelty your lifestyle will have to change because your lifestyle is based on exploitation. If you don't want to change then get comfortable with slavery, idk what else to say.

Rather than shoot down things, why don't you say how much time you're willing to put into it and how much money? and what resources you have?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Nothing. On the other hand, wearing 3 shirts for more than 3 days makes people not want to come near you due to the stench.

Rather than shoot down things, why don’t you say how much time you’re willing to put into it and how much money? and what resources you have?

Ok. I'm unemployed, I have to spend my days helping my daughter with online schoolwork and I did buy new clothing this year because I've lost 60 pounds due to a still yet-to-be diagnosed illness where I haven't eaten any solid food since August and dropping down that many sizes is not fixable by just altering pants. Let alone underwear.

Any more personal info you'd like? My telephone number? My bank balance?

[–] naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No need to get snarky, you opened this convo by asking what you should wear and then just started lashing out. I am not responsible for your situation or the ludicrous injustice in the world, I am just trying to help.

I'm sorry you're in a tough sitch, if you're truly willing and able to do nothing then I have no idea why you asked. All I really say is wear second hand or get comfortable being a slaver, that's the choice we get atm.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

No need to get snarky, you opened this convo by asking what you should wear and then just started lashing out. I am not responsible for your situation or the ludicrous injustice in the world, I am just trying to help.

I never said you were. You asked, so I told you.

[–] bananaa@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Simplest answer: cotton. It’s cheap and good enough for most uses. High-grade cotton like Supima is extra comfortable and not much more expensive.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

It's not very good for the use of keeping you warm. Unlike wool.

[–] 5200@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Nothing! Go forth and let it all be free and flap around!

[–] speff@disc.0x-ia.moe 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can't say anything about buying new clothes, but as the budget's tightened in my household I've been leaning how to mend my clothes. The ones I normally would've thrown away due to armpit/toe/crotch holes can be fixed somewhat easily.

One catch is that I use a sewing machine my MIL gave me - so there was some cost somewhere. But I see machines on craigslist going for sub 60 fairly often. The second catch is that I was lucky enough to develop an interest (and spend my free time) learning about how to mend clothes. If people lack free time/interest to learn how to do it, then they end up paying the new-clothes tax.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My wife does the sewing machine work here. I'm inept. But I'm okay with a needle and thread, so I've done plenty of my own (ugly) repairs. Some stuff it doesn't matter on anyway, like fixing the toe in a sock. Easy to do and saves money on socks.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

I've got a hole in my sock! Darn it!

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Reduce, reuse, recycle is the best bet. Most people in privileged areas own much more clothing than they need and dispose of it long before it's worn out. Used clothing, hand me downs. Recycled plastic fibres (wash in one of those bags that filter out micro plastic). Plant fibres. Hemp is a great alternative to wool.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm looking up hemp clothing now. It's just as expensive as the other option the other person gave me.

Purchasing used clothing, fine, but if your advice is to buy much more expensive clothing than I can afford, I guess I can't wear the cruelty-free stuff if I need something new. And I'm sure as hell not buying used underwear.

[–] casmael@startrek.website 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Based on the news today, human skin™️ apparently

[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

If we change the climate enough via global warming we can make it so it's always hot then we will no longer need clothes!