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[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this a bad time to tell you that I'm brown?

And I haven't done a lot of work in the past 3 years to help marginalized people because I was too busy sorting out my mental health after a devastating depressive episode in early 2021. I was in a state medicaid plan through Obamacare, and that was only possible because red state voters approved a state medicaid expansion in a referendum.

Believe me when I say I'm not a trust fund socialist sipping mimosas at brunch.

I never said that I didn't care about the Palestinians. I do. And one of the reasons I'm voting for Biden is because the other option would just kill more of them. I fully recognize however that this is a post hoc rationalization.

I recognize that in voting for Biden, I am putting my own well-being and my concern about domestic issues ahead of my support for Palestinians. I'm prioritizing it as lower than other issues. And that's the horrible decision I choose to own, because I'm tired of worrying about my family's safety and all the emboldened racists.

Will you tell me that it's wrong for a minority person to seek safety and security for their family over support for a minority being genocides? That I should pick the morally pure choice and bring about a riskier situation for my family because of Trump?

I'll say it right now -- it is morally wrong. But it's the choice I make. My care for my family and for other minorities across the US takes priority over a minority being genocided overseas. I want to end this comment on quotable and firm statement (hence the rambling) but frankly there is none. The world sucks.

[–] Jordan_U@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have no beef with you either.

It sounds like you aren't really trying to sway others to vote for Biden, and if you are I'm guessing you aren't doing so by insulting them.

I'm sorry that there's so much oppression and that you are forced to weigh your and your famy's wellbeing / lives over those of Palestinians.

It's cruel, and frankly fucked up, and I have solidarity with you and everyone else suffering under oppression and just trying to make it through.

I hope you're able to have some sort of rest / enjoyment from this Christmas break. I hope you and your family the best.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I haven't got any quarrel with you. I hope you and your family get some rest and enjoyment too.

I want to clarify that it's not like I'm looking over my shoulder at every little thing, but every couple months there's either national news or an incident close to home that reminds me the knuckle draggers are alive and well. A lot of my concern for my family's well-being comes from if things get worse, which would happen under Trump. I'm privileged to be able to say that, because I know there's Americans being actively targeted by conservatives. My first chemistry teacher is lesbian and has a family with kids. A teacher I knew but never had classes with had to leave the state because of increased transphobia and their trans child.

I just want to make it clear that me and my family are not actively suffering, I'm just worried (with good reason to be, I think). And I'm very empathetic for the people I know who are suffering right now. Does that make sense? I want to be able to help everyone, but my family and those I know come first, followed closely by LGBT and minority Americans.

Just to reiterate, I don't have anything against you. I suspect we largely support the same things and have the same beliefs too. I just wanted to show you that I'm not in an ivory tower -- I do understand what's at stake. The situation in Gaza asks you to make impossible questions, and it's unfair of me to judge people for what that decide is the answer. I'm still going to nudge them towards Biden, because I genuinely believe that is the most likely least bad outcome for everyone. But you're right, I shouldn't show contempt or distaste.