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Make them illegal and centuries, CENTURIES! from now it would all be the same. Meanwhile Australia begs to differ, go and read about the port Arthur shooting. And yes the us has more guns per capita than Australia had, who cares start doing something about it.
If you live on an malaria infested swamp in 2023 you should consider moving somewhere else or petition you local politicians and talk with your mates about draining it. Teaching your kid to drink their own piss will only take them so far.
Australia really was amazing, I'll give you that.
Between 1990 and 2015 their homicide rate dropped by 50 percent.
And let's not forget England banning guns. Their homicide rate dropped by 20% in the same period.
Canada too - they put out some gun restrictions and theirs dropped by 29%.
How about Germany? Also 29%.
Meanwhile, the barbaric US's homicide rate... also halved.
The 90s were just relatively violent everywhere, and the drop in homicide rates isn't actually really correlated with firearm restrictions. There are people who will say that guns reduce homicides, but that doesn't really play out statistically either. In college I did an epidemiological analysis of homicides and other violent crime (US only data) and firearm legislation didn't have a statistically-significant impact in either direction from state to state looking at numbers between 1980 and 2015.
I found that anti-gun people and pro-gin people were both mad at me for "being on the other side" because it's become so fucking politicized that nobody wants to even look at data that doesn't jibe with the echo chamber.
There is a correlation between handguns and suicides -largely due to the effectiveness of the first attempt. Though oddly enough not in Australia, where taking the guns away just made people kill themselves in other ways: