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It's almost impossible to deny being an alcoholic without sounding like an alcoholic (lemmy.world)

submitted 11 months ago by PoastRotato@lemmy.world to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Group therapy is pseudo-science?

[–] explodicle@local106.com 41 points 10 months ago

I assume they mean this?

In the past, some critics have criticized 12-step programs as pseudoscientific and "a cult that relies on God as the mechanism of action". Until recently, ethical and operational issues had prevented robust randomized controlled trials from being conducted comparing 12-step programs directly to other approaches. More recent studies employing randomized and blinded trials have shown 12-step programs provide similar benefit compared to motivational enhancement therapy (MET) and cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), and were more effective in producing continuous abstinence and remission compared to these approaches.

Source: Wikipedia

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Others have mentioned it, but to elaborate, Alcoholics Anonymous is not merely sitting in a circle and sharing your problems, but a belief system which requires you to submit to a higher power to move forward.

[–] medusa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Knew a guy who insisted he wasn't addicted, but he can't go a day without attending an AA meeting. 40 years, non stop. Even when in other countries for work, he finds them. Left his own daughters wedding dinner to make it to one.

He runs his own chapter where he lives. He's had people follow the steps, sure, but some don't. No matter how successful the latter are, he tears them apart for "not doing it right" and has turned his back on them for not following how he did it.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

My favorite quote on fanaticism applies here:

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim" - George Santayana

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

I didn't know you could be addicted to AA meetings. I guess alcohol is a gateway drug to AA meetings, lol.

[–] wolfshadowheart@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's 12 step. Not all AA is 12 step.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Almost All... But yes in recent years AA has tried to distance itself from the higher power ( God) rhetoric.

AA is somewhat decentralized, and you will have splinter groups.

Also to clarify, 12 step is a process created by the founders of AA. It's not a separate thing.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The process still involves relinquishing your will power and deferring to an higher/outside power. Incredibly cult like behavior. You should be raising a person's will power. Hyping the hell out of them.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Oh I absolutely agree, the manipulation techniques used, are still the same ones religions use to control their congregations.

[–] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't know about AA, do you?

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago

No, just AA