this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2023
747 points (97.6% liked)

Europe

8484 readers
1 users here now

News/Interesting Stories/Beautiful Pictures from Europe 🇪🇺

(Current banner: Thunder mountain, Germany, 🇩🇪 ) Feel free to post submissions for banner pictures

Rules

(This list is obviously incomplete, but it will get expanded when necessary)

  1. Be nice to each other (e.g. No direct insults against each other);
  2. No racism, antisemitism, dehumanisation of minorities or glorification of National Socialism allowed;
  3. No posts linking to mis-information funded by foreign states or billionaires.

Also check out !yurop@lemm.ee

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] V0uges@jlai.lu 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’m getting really annoyed by these articles about saint Hidalgo. Resident parking ie for people who live within the city parish limit won’t be subject to these new prices. But it is the people with really high income who live in the 8e and 16e who drive around Paris in Range Rovers and Audi Q7, alone in their cars, not the cleaning people from La Courneuve and Saint Denis who works in the offices and uses the RER B to commute to work. Not your regular office people as they either commute or bike to the office. And for those of us who decide to move further away from the first ring of surburb, we do have cars but use public transit if we need to go to Paris, either for work or leisure as it’s a lot faster and far less expensive.

It’s just a damn smoke screen as Parisians won’t be affected.

[–] Toldry@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Translation for non-Parisians:

  • Hidalgo is the current mayor of Paris, who has an (arguably false?) reputation for promoting urbanist policies
  • 6e and 18e refer to two districts («arrondissement») in Paris populated by rich people
  • RER B is a transit line connecting central Paris with Parisian suburbs
[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Thank you. As a non-parisian dude, I wanted to ask that, and your comment was just in time to answer my curiosity.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Peut-être les automobilistes parisiens seront-ils affectés dans un second temps?

[–] V0uges@jlai.lu 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

J’ai beaucoup de doutes sur ça. Elle a beau dire qu’elle souhaite protéger les gens de petite couronne avec cette votation, jusqu’à présent ses actions ont été en faveur des parisiens et contre les banlieusards. Ça m’étonnerait qu’elle ait changé sa vision d’un coup, elle en a juste assez de se faire taper par les élus d’IdF pour ses décisions non-concertées donc elle s’ajoute un polish « altruiste ».

Sur le principe, je suis d’accord avec limiter l’usage des SUV, nos infrastructures ne sont pas faites pour mais soit c’est tout le monde qui prend soit personne.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 0 points 9 months ago

Et comment tu continues une politique d'urbanisme si t'es pas réélue ? Sa mesure reste positive, et introduit l'idée qui sera sûrement appliquée à la fois ailleurs, et plus tard à Paris même.