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An unfortunate fact is that we're never going to beat Russia primarily by killing russians. Russians should be killed when they try to steal and rape our countries and peoples in order to immediately stop them from doing that, but the only way to properly win this is to somehow get to the leaders or their wallets.
While I agree with the sentiment, it's not like "we" are trying to beat Russia, right? Ukraine is defending itself. I'd imagine the story would be a little different if the goal was to beat Russia(like a full effort), rather than defend Ukraine.
This can be both, and it's CHEAP.
For less than 1/10th the direct cost of the Iraq war and at the cost of zero American servicemember lives we've set back Russia's military by decades, strengthened NATO, and actually done something positive for a change.
I don’t disagree from a purely American standpoint, but I’d caution against calling a war where Ukrainians are being so heavily impacted daily and Ukrainian soldiers are fighting and dying “cheap”. It’s an inexpensive investment in the security of the region and the world on the US’s part, but no war is cheap.
Those of us who believe Ukrainian lives and freedoms are worth preserving don't need convincing.
Those that think it's too expensive to do the right thing need to be shown that even when discounting the moral necessity of the relief, the return on investment is excellent.
Putin has declared that his "special operation" continues until all the goals have been met, and the goals are "demilitarisation, denazification and Ukraine's neutrality". The first two don't mean anything, and Ukraine doesn't want to do the third one. So if this stubborness continues, I cannot see any other way forward except "beat Russia".
Oh yeah, and I'd imagine if something like NATO decided to take that path forward in the future, it would probably be possible to beat Russia by killing Russians. I also imagine it would be relatively quick tbh.
But for humanities sake, I hope they can put together a better, more surgical way to remove the cancer from Russia.
Exactly. The US technically can end the Russo-Ukrainian War any time it wants. All they gotta do is go "boots on the ground", but that carries problems of its own. Mainly that Russia is a nuclear power and Putin himself has said he's not afraid to launch.
I don't care enough to risk American lives.
That insight makes the large loss of life in this war even more tragic. Fuck war. Fuck Putin for sending these men to kill and die.
I think the hope is that eventually things get bad enough for Russia that a revolution starts within. Because of the threat of nukes, Russia will only fall from its own population.