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What do you mean by complexity? An i3 style cartesian peinter will have fewer motors, shorter belt paths, fewer bearings and what have you, etc.
A CoreXY printer will be able to move faster than a cartesian peinter and will accelerate a ton faster too. That said, if you really want to cut print times you need a larger nozzle and thicker extrusion widths.
Prusas are generally reliable workhorses. Bambu is newer on the screen, but fairly well liked. Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about some of the cloud infrastructure and closed source components.
I'm not sure if you've considered Vorons. If not, take a quick look at the trident and/or the 2.4. The build will be fairly involved, but you will have a super solid base that has a lot of community support.
Except that voron 2.4s are close to double the price. Not everyone has that budget.
Kits on 3djake which has decent prices normally are 1650€ for a 300mm voron
A 250mm V2.4 is about 1200€. A trident is less than that and is more comparable to the Bambu.
Where? I can't find one in continental Europe.
Voron doesn't sell anything, you either have to source all the materials yourself or buy a kit. I bought a kit from formbot when I built my V0 and have been pretty happy with it. They also sell V2.4 kits and have a warehouse in Czech
Go ahead and mansplain voron to me lol...
Of course voron is just a standard design, but in order to be comparable at all, and I mean even to be in the same discussion, to prusa/bambu it has to be a full kit including every single part, only needing assembly.
Sure you can build a voron for cheaper if you spends months searching for deals, suppliers, aliexpress parts, and printing everything yourself.
I will admit, I haven't heard of formbot, but that is quite possibly the best deal on a voron kit I have ever seen! Even paying an extra 200-300 for the printed parts, depending on supplier, that comes out to <1k€. That is a too good to be true deal. I will maybe have to buy one myself!
Get the functional parts over PIF.voron.dev for 110$.
Check out magic phoenix for voron kits. Good price with included upgrades/mods out of the box.
I can only speak from the perspective of US available parts. The trident is a much closer 'competetor' to Bambu's offerings, so I will use that as the comparison. Since Bambu's offerings are 256mm^3 I'll compare against the 250mm^3 trident.
Note that there are some sales going on for the various offerings below, but the trident is only somewhat more expensive once you factor in things like ASA/ABS for the printed parts.
Bambu's X1c is $1,200
Bambu's B1B is $600
A LDO bom-in-a-box trident is $1,200
A Formbot bom-in-a-box trident is $650
I was able to print functional prints on my old i3 clone with two spools of ASA, so add $70 there. All I did to my i3 clone was tape together a couple of cardboard boxes to make a quick/dirty enclosure.
By complexity I mean plug-and-play. But, I guess it's not a valid assumption I made.