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[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Why can't people just stop using google? Genuinely curious

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because most alternatives aren't nearly as functional due to them dominating the market.

[–] cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Yes alternate platforms with good level of UX exists. But without content its no good. YouTube - Peertube Google maps - Organic maps & OSMAnd (open street maps) Reddit - Lemmy (bigger is better)

[–] sw2de3fr4gt@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Google Maps actually sucks for things like hiking and trails, there's a lot of better alternatives like Maps.me.

[–] ultra@feddit.ro 6 points 11 months ago

For the others, maybe. But YouTube? It's strength is in the sheer amount of content. It's going to take a lot of time and resources to create and host that content on the fediverse.

[–] Nath@aussie.zone 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is frightfully expensive to host video content. YouTube would cost Billions per year to run.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I always wonder about this. I pay only a few bucks per month for Nebula. I highly suspect Nebula is running at a loss.

[–] Jaigoda@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not necessarily. Nebula operates at a far, far smaller scope, with an emphasis on quality of videos over quantity, and every user is a paid user. If every user of YouTube was paying a couple bucks per month, they'd be making in the high tens of billions of dollars of revenue per year, several times more than they do with ads. Plus YouTube has a ridiculously huge amount of essentially worthless videos because literally anyone can upload a 10 hour video, so surely their hosting costs are higher per user than Nebula.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago

Oh right, I somehow forgot about that.

[–] LibreFish@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Subscriptions are really lucrative. Iirc most ads pay like 0.1-0.5 cents per view, so you'd need to watch an insane amount of videos to equal the cost of a $2 subscription. I could probably make a site that brings in money if I had 5 $2 subscribers and a half 100 medium quality vids. Start scaling that up and it can be really profitable while offering subscribers a fair shake.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

By and large, that's where the content is.

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

There's no alternative to youtube that isn't complete garbage

[–] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So what is equal or better alternative than Google Maps, Youtube and Google Search?

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've been using duckduckgo for half a year already they've became quite good compared to Google search, Google maps alternative is any popular maps app just try what'll fit your tastes, but YouTube is certainly don't have alternatives YET just because libre alternatives though exist but not yet in shape enough (basically we need datahoarders who'll hoard and host whole youtube to libre alternatives such as framatube and others) for now we can only rely to custom frontends such as clipious, piped and others and custom apps of course

[–] ryan_@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I started ditching google apps last spring and my “alternatives” are: bing/apple maps, invidious, and SearXNG. I self-host the last two to keep even more control of my data.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

OpenStreetMap instead of Google Maps (OSM would be even better if more people used and actively contributed mapping data to it), no real youtube alternative yet (but see Piped/Invidious, Peertube, and Odysee), and there's plenty of alternative search engines like Duckduckgo, Brave search (has its own index), etc