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[–] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 88 points 11 months ago (2 children)

At times I wonder if medically assisted suicides are frowned upon due to not being able to further drain the money out of patients and their extended credit lines.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You don't have to wonder any longer. You've figured it out. Take the morality out of many political decisions and you have the right answer. Abortions? -- nobody gives a shit about those children. It's a convenient cover so they don't have to say "Mothers are killing the thing that we will enslave and drain later on in the economy!" Everyone says that they care about the child until it's born -- they don't even care before that point. And the lack of care/suffering/poverty of the child afterwards is the point of exploitation. So the system is working as intended. They need more workers, they need to siphon every ounce of production out of those workers.

[–] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Abortions? – nobody gives a shit about those children. It’s a convenient cover so they don’t have to say “Mothers are killing the thing that we will enslave and drain later on in the economy!"

What sort of purpose does it serve to force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term when the fetus has a Fatal fetal abnormality?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

It's for the useful idiots who follow these politicians to believe that those politicians' choices are driven by moral principles rather than cold personal upside maximization and a sociopathic disregard for others: for appearances' sake, same as going around kissing babies and shaking the hands of people they look down on.

This might sound crazy to any normal person because normal people wouldn't sacrifice others like that merely for the sake of "the message", but sociopaths don't feel any guilt or shame when they hurt or harm others, so they're capable of sacrificing others to quite an extreme level merelly for some minor benefits to themselves, if the victims are powerless to reciprocate (which in this case they are).

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

It gives conservatives something to jack off about.

Violence is the only reasonable response.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What sort of purpose does it serve to force a woman to carry a pregnancy

One sterile woman is a good exchange for 10 babies born in poverty who will join the Army.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The policy creates orphans more than it creates a population boom. And eventually people do find ways to prevent/stop pregnancies they're just more dangerous and you see small bump in births then they go down as women die. With more women dying on their 3rd or 4th child then you get more kids who are ophaned.

The strategic problem is nobody wants orphans so what happens? They get abused or fend for themselves and become unstable. Ain't many of them going to join the army.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

None of those details matter. More meat for the grinder is all they care about.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What I'm saying tho is the bump is negligable and small, if it exists at all for abortion. Its actually the fight against schools and education that will bring meat for the meat grinder.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They're also frowned upon because it's pretty cruel to tell someone "well, you could just die" because they can't afford medical treatments or a place to live.

[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

How is that any different than it is now? You can choose to die with dignity, or, in the current system, drain your funds, your families funds, put everyone in debt, THEN die.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Rush Limbaugh taught conservatives to hate universal health insurance because doctors would tell you to just die.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Not on topic but I recently listened to the Rush Limbaugh episodes of "Behind the Bastards". I didn't think I could dislike Rush more than I already did but I found out he was worse than I thought.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Nobody needs to tell us that. We already know.

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

I'd rather rhave the option than not even ha e autonomy over my own life.