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[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact: Patricia Tallman has played more characters on Star Trek than Jeffrey Combs.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I see PT in the future of Risa

[–] Jaccident@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That depends on how you feel about what constitutes playing a character.

In raw numbers we’ve had Combs play 7 main characters (Brunt, Tiron, Mulkahey, Penk, Krem, Shran, Agimus) that aren’t Weyouns and at least 3 of them that I recall. This discounts his appearances in video games.

Whereas though PT has been on screen a lot, maybe as many times as Combs, it’s worth remembering that stuntpersons aren’t playing the character, they are playing the actor. She was also in Jurassic Park, not as Ellie, but as “Laura Dern’s Stunt Double”.

Edit: an earlier version of this comment started “that’s not strictly true” but I’m not the person who gets to decide that. To me it doesn’t seem true, but to someone else perhaps it does. I changed it because I’m not the arbiter of such things, and to open a comment that way was frankly a bit dickish.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does depend on how you count it.

For Combs, I was only counting Weyoun as one character, even if he's playing multiple copies of him.* And I'm only counting TV and movies, not video games. This also means that Tallman doesn't get to have her Romulan appearance counted twice because the trading card game turned it into a different character.

For Tallman, I'm not counting any work as a double,** but I am counting her unnamed Starfleet officers that each had the misfortune of being played by a stuntwoman, and therefore tended to die. She gets one redshirt role each in TNG, Generations, DS9 and Voyager. She also plays one of the trilithium thieves from die hard in space, one of the aliens that knocked up a warbird's engines, an immortalish prisoner in the gamma quadrant, a Bajoran nurse, and one of the space succubi that tried to beat Harry Kim with a large phallic object and drain him of his genetic material.

So, by that count, Tallman has 9 roles while Combs has 8.


* Obviously this is a matter of preference and interpretation, and the more you think about it the more you start to open Pandora's box. Are clones with the same look and personality all the same character? What about clones that are wildly different? What about parallel universe versions? Is a doppelganger added to the count? Or a time travel duplicate? What about body swaps or possessions, do they count as being a different character? What about a character who is playing another character in an in universe fiction? What about versions that appear in dreams or simulations?

** If we're going to nitpick, I'd argue that stunt doubles are intended to be seen as the character by the audience, so it's not unreasonable to count them that way, even if I'm not.

[–] Jaccident@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I must have missed some Tallman background characters as I had fewer than that before moving on to tallying up her stunting for various main cast. (I checked two sources as I was worried this might be the case but as always Roles, Stunts and Secondary Artist work are not credited equally or properly).

Jaccident, when his maths failed.