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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Those kids exhibited poise and bravery that the cops didn't and couldn't even comprehend. To no avail. I don't know how much more can be said about this incident that hasn't already been, but I wish a pox on every one of those useless officers. I wish upon them the most horrible things that can't even be spoken of. What a way for kids to learn that adults, even the most trusted ones, can be stupid and disappointing.

I don't spend very much time on hate, but I'll make an exception for them.

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I think there's more that can be said, especially as more information is released.

I know I learned more about the experience of the kids from this story, and how much some of the cops feel failed by their organizations.

I value the kids' perspectives so much because they are the ones whose voices (probably rightly so) have been missing from the story until now. To hear the kids sobbing on the bus after finally getting out...the girl who only wanted to let the adults know that she tried to help her friends. It destroys me to hear she, and others, had to be the ones to give love and care to those around them instead of the adults they could hear on the other side of the door.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Civilian or cop, and I hate that sort of distinction, if you wish to carry a firearm you must understand safety, lethality, practice under pressure, and fuck me, 100 other variables. If you don't want to learn all that? Then don't pick up a weapon.

This lib has an AR-15. Ironically sold to me via other libs chanting, "BAN!" after Uvalde. Meh, might as well get grandfathered if I ever want one. Good job guys?

It's almost boring to shoot with a dialed in red-dot sight. I ain't Annie Oakley, but I can easily put steel on target when shaking all over. I can swap a mag while shitting myself. I practice.

So they were up against a kid with a good weapon, equally armed and presumably better trained? And children's lives were on the line?

If you were a cop on that day, in those circumstances, it was your fucking responsibility to engage. And yes, that might mean your personal extinction. That might be the consequences when you pick up a weapon. If you can't handle that? I got no problem. But pick up a rifle? Go fucking fight.